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Refia or Luka?

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by MaxJunior, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. MaxJunior

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    I pulled a refia some days ago and im pulling for a DFina atm, my question is, should i use refia or try get Luka mainwhile i do my DFina hunt?

    PS:my healer atm is a garnet (i did some miracles with her xD).
     
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    Refia > future is in physical attackers anyway and full raise + Embolden is worth a lot, Luka have that AoE heal + status heal but i would pick her only when location require it.
     
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    I personally would pick Refia over Luka.

    She is better than Luka in every way other than saving turns:
    Luka can cure status ailments and heal at the same time.
    Refia will need multiple turns to do this.

    If your team is healed up and all buffed, your Refia is a sitting duck with not much use.
    So to me, spending more turns is no issue for Refia.

    Refia's Full Life is enough to convince me to never bother with Luka.
     
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    If Luka would have Esuna then she would be a good healer but she doesn't and thats hurts. Also revive vs full-life... of course full life is better and saved me from losing a lot of battles.
     
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    why you want Esuna on unit that have AoE Esuna ?
     
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    S3PHIR0TH I'm a toaster :3 VIP Supporter

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    She has something better than esuna. She has a skill that is basically AoE esuna and curaja.

    But the full-life argument makes sense :P
     
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    i'll use refia then, cinse my party have 3 physical unit and the full-life attracts me, thanks guys ^^
     
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    I would say its AoE Esuna with Cura and it costs 25 MP per use. Esuna use 8 MP. It just pointless for me to use her priestess miracle if one or two units got some status ailments it just cost too much MP for me and I think it wouldn't work for me for a longer run.
     
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    Depends... I prefer Refia for Embolden and her LB has AoE esuna (sometimes it's a saving), full-life is good, too.
    Something people are not talking: dualcast. Luka has skills, Refia has magics.
    Personally, I use CoD's comeback and probably will use Charlotte's Blessing "something" (haha) if needed.
    But, yeah, Curaja + Esunaga is amazing, something you should never underestimate.
     
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    They may seem comparable base but Dualcast makes Refia unparalleled which luka can't take advantage of.
     
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    Luka has Single Target 3 Turn ReRaise, which is great, but not great enough to upset all the other Refia benefits everyone else has pointed out.
     
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    They both have their place, but if I had to choose just one it would be Refia. Innate status resist to the major issues for caster, Embolden(vs Deep Blue when many other units have Focus), and Raise 100%. Until Tilith 6* dethrones her(dual cast Refia would come close).

    I would say if I had both I would use Refia 90% of the time. Luka is good now really because the event is made to make her look good to get people to want to pull her. She is a shadow Tilith. And to me Deep Blue actually hurts my uses for her. It is nice, but Cheer(and their equivalents) are mostly on healers, which would force two healers on many people which is a total waste.
     
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    Luka is way prettier.

    I also hear Refia may be involved in underground chocobo races.
     
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    You just haven't seen Refia without her puffy dress and hood. :p

    I so need a Loaded Weapon gif for such a comment.
     
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    Where did you get that info? I don't see any skill on her list similar to what you are saying...
    https://exviuswiki.com/luka
     
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    Refia generally wins out imo, but the time where Luka is gonna outshine Refia is when MP drain is going to become an issue. Refia has no passive MP regen, so in a very long fight with lots of healing, Luka is gonna be more useful as she can keep healing for longer.

    In the arena both brings different things. Refia if lanced or osmosed is going to be useless in the arena, however for Luka she can be silenced and what not. Currently only Luka can equip items to negate this weakness. Refia won't be able to until the 5% MP regen matera becomes available on global.

    Bottom line both fit different requirements in very different situations
     
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    If you run a healer in Arena, I'd definitely say Refia is the clear winner because of her ailment resist. Shes been the MVP enough times for me because of this vs Golem Staff/Noctis RNG.
     
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    It happens, but so infrequently to the same character, especially compared to the other status affects, that it likely wouldn't matter in most instances. I can say I've never lost a match because Refia was out of MP and I have had her help save one because she was immune to petrify/paralyze and not disabled because of silence. Part of what make Luneth so great too. I have stopped cold many a healer(and other units) with BCL and/or Golem Staff in the reverse.
     
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    Oh snap! My bad, I was looking at someone else.
     
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    Refia > Luka, you will get dual cast later so Refia will be superior while Luka can't use dual cast for healing due to ability healing instead magic :) Luka is 6* of Tilith 5*
     

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