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Unit Overview: Dark Knight Cecil [Final Fantasy 4]

Discussion in 'Unit Reviews' started by Jet Stingren, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. Jet Stingren

    Jet Stingren Wings of Freedom | Freedom For Us. Staff Member Head Moderator VIP

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    Before he was a paladin to save the world, he was a dark knight in the powerful Baron Army! That's right, we're talking about Dark Knight Cecil and how he compares in the Global meta! As usual, leave comments, and questions in this thread.

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    Rarity Level HP MP ATK DEF MAG SPR DC Hits
    5* 942 / 2854 (240) 37 / 111 (40) 39 / 119 (24) 31 / 94 (16) 29 / 89 (16) 30 / 90 (16) 10 1
    6* 1225 / 3711 (390) 48 / 145 (65) 51 / 155 (34) 41 / 123 (26) 38 / 116 (26) 39 / 117 (26) 12 1

    Magic Levels at 6*: None
    Weaknesses: None | Resistances: +50% resistance to Darkness
    Weaknesses [6*]: Weaknesses: None | Resistances: +100% resistance to Darkness
    Trust Mastery Award: Deathbringer (Weapon) +120 ATK + Adds Dark element to attacks.
    Limit Break: Lose 20% HP 270% AoE Physical Attack > Lose 20% HP + 390% AoE Physical Attacks

    Abilities Learned at Each Level:
    5*: Store (3), Last Stand (3), Darkness (10), Drain Blade (56), HP Scroll (68), Dark Cannon (76)
    6*: Absolute Dark (1), ATK +30% (15), Gravity Ball (31), DEF +20% (50), +20% HP (62), Auto-Refresh (82), Dark Flame (93), Soul Eater (100)

    Pros: DK Cecil is a well.. very stupid strong unit when we start to get our 6* units really. Without any stat ups he has a massive 155 ATK without anything equipped that's really high, he also has a very wide offensive movepool to make use of this attack. I'll say now his Last Stand will be more niche you'll see why when I get to the cons of him. DK Cecil also gets a plethora of boosts to his name. Absolute Dark, ATK +20%, DEF +20%, and HP +20% all when he gets to 6* geez man calm down, the darkness can take a break! I wanna point how DK Cecil mods for his attacks are also very high, and most of them are dark element He even has a useful MAG attack which he could be a wall breaker if used correctly.

    Cons: DK Cecil has a huge problem, and that's him losing HP whenever he uses most of his skills. It may not seem to bad now, but this is very dangerous when it comes to content where you need as much HP as possible. This pretty much brakes DK Cecil and lowers him alot cause you need the HP in order to survive! You need the HP in order to keep yourself going steady, you can't even be reckless with him cause if you use his moves then it pretty much kills him. Even his final move, Soul Eater is a massive -49% decrease in HP that's half your HP just for one turn, if you don't have a strong healer with Curaga/Curaja then you'll be in some serious trouble for him.

    Trust Mastery Award: Deathbringer pretty much is a direct opposite of Excalibur from regular Cecil. So, it's a good grab to get it might not be as super great as Excalibur as oftenly I see enemies with dark resist which can limit the swords potential. But, it's still a very good TM to farm for.

    Comparing to Other Units: DK Cecil doesn't seem to have any competition at the time of his release.

    Conclusion: It's real risky to use DK Cecil in any sort of hard content, he may be a nuke. But, he loses to much HP in the process which if RNG decides to be bad he can get focus targeted 3 times in one turn and he's already dead. I don't know if you should be happy for pulling him he's not bad, he's strong he just has this massive HP deal problem which may screw him over easily.


     
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  2. Flyincatz

    Flyincatz Well-Known Member

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    why is he frowning?
     
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    Well it's good if i got him, i have tank and enough healer
     
  4. Pyrodox1

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    Another irrelevant unit that nobody will ever get because he's a 5* base. I guess this is Gumi's plan to bleed the whales and piss off those who don't want to invest hundreds on one unit.
     
  5. Timo

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    I never got a 4* unit... but somehow i think dk cecil will be my first > 3* unit -.-
     
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  6. Jet Stingren

    Jet Stingren Wings of Freedom | Freedom For Us. Staff Member Head Moderator VIP

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    But DK Cecil is 5* Base. ._.
     
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    I know! I just want to point out that when I have luck, it's that kind of "luck" ;-)
     
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    How would a dkc with barrage be ?
     
  9. Bùi Kiên Trung

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    But the Deathbringer has Man-eater as a bonus. I personally think it's better than Excalibur :) ( especially for PvP mode in the future )
     
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    yes with dkc's dark resist -100% and cheer or hero's rime from ramza he'll wipe out anything
     
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    you see, his enchanment 9999 heals is active at the end of the turn, thats mean as long as he didnt die he'll recover full hp
     
  12. Sir Vincent

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    With DW, he will get to regen at the middle of 2 attacks. So he wont kill himself instantly but will left at 40% at the end of the turn. However, you need to invest alot in him to get that. And it even not that amazing comparing to other units.
     
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    Rather than dont have any good 5* unit...
     
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    I Loooove DKC. The best in Donkey Kong series.
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    sorry
     
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    To add, it's hard to rectify the downside of Dark Knight skills since the HP loss is percentage-wise.. SO even if you managed to increase your HP from 4000 to 5000, it would still be the same.
     
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    Thats the downside, thats why you need right party for him...
     
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    A niche unit that's high risk but not much reward. Unless a redesign or a special equipment, new enhancements or he is still out there at the very bottom of 5* bases tier list.
     
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    I plan on giving my DK Cecil a blood sword (from colosseum) and/or barrage (from Luna's TMR). Would he still be a bad unit then?

    Maybe dual wield, with his own TMR too, idk yet
     
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    Why blood sword he aleardy have drain blade, barrage is fine
     
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    Its just because drain blade is hybrid dmg (which isn't good at all) and Drainer is pure physical dmg, and with better HP drain (50%). It isn't necessary i know, but it would be good to have it

    I just realized my name matches the HP absorbing skills lol
     

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