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Black mage exdeath

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by bowerman, Oct 11, 2019.

  1. bowerman

    bowerman Ascended Member

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    Who is better, black mage exdeath or black mage golbez?
     
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    Ex for sure
     
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    Per Furcula's damage comparison spreadsheet Black Mage Golbez is pretty bad, even below High Seraph Ultima. Dark Mage Exdeath, on the other hand, is not top mage either, but still around Tsukiko level damage. Kimono Fina still stands on top after all this time.
     
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    The newer the unit, the better they will be, that's the elementary rule you should remember in FFBE.
     
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    Arkadi Ludicrous Speed! VIP Supporter

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    Except, in this case, it's not true. Kimono Fina handily beats all of the mages on this banner (Warrior of Light Krile and Dark Mage Exdeath).
     
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    There are some execptions such as K.Fina beating other mage, Bartz still beating Firion and more preferable than Riku or Seph.

    But with powercreep rising almost every week. Most people would assume the next new unit will outshine the old one.

    Also he is comparing a unit from a year ago with a unit released yesterday. Of course the comparison is huge.
     
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    A year ago? More like back in May of this year... See Meme's review of Black Mage Golbez: https://brave-exvius.com/threads/unit-overview-black-mage-golbez-final-fantasy-iv.47976/

    All I can recommend is to review the damage spreadsheets for DPS viability every time there's a new release to see if it's an upgrade from what you have or not. If it's for nostalgia purposes, you can pull on whatever, but if you need a DPS upgrade, then the spreadsheets will give you a good rough guideline for where units stand compared to others. They also give the optimal rotation to get you started as well.

    Each has different assumptions, so review those when making your decision:
    Furcula's damage comparison
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    Muspel's damage comparison
    spreadsheet
     
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    Furcula's spreadsheet is still using "equip clothes" materia on Ex? Or is updated now?
     
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    Lightning is over 2 months old and is tied with Riku, everyone released after still weaker than her, including bartz.

    Except for some power spikes, new units aren't necessarely better than old, in fact some key units stays in the top for long periods until the next power spike comes.
     
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    Ex-Death. However his damage is pretty weak still.. behind all the recently released spell casters.

    He is out of the Top 5 spell damage dealers.

     

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