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CG Lid vs CG Nichol

Discussion in 'General' started by Yerrow, May 16, 2018.

  1. Yerrow

    Yerrow Well-Known Member

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    Ok I'm in a pickle. I can do 50% breaks and can buff at 100%.

    If I had to pick between a 7* CG Lid and a 7* CG Nichol, which 7* should I choose? And why?
     
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    7* Nichol > 7* Lid.

    and its mostly because we have Loren available as regular unit ^.-
     
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    As a f2p I'm having a hard time deciding if I should sink resources into Lid, or hold out another month and go all in for Nichol, I've kinda got a thing for Nichol so maybe I'll just wait.
     
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    https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Maritime_Strategist_Nichol

    Look at these abilities. CG Nichol is a god. CG Lid is a dedicated breaker. Multitasking units like Basch have breaks that are enough to handle all content so CG Nichol is a gamechanger powerwise.

    7* CG Nichol remains king of his role from what I understand and other units become better breakers to compete with CG Lid.

    No contest
     
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    Why are you comparing a support with a debuffer?!
    CG Nichol is best support. CG Lid is best breaker.
    Nuff said
     
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    i will say Lid's tmr is great for cg nichol due to his big mp consumption
     
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    How to troll people 101 here.
     
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    I'm waiting for CG Nichol so I can attempt to pull at least two of him hopefully with my stash of tickets

    Will I actually be that lucky? Probably not lol
     
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    Probably because he only wants to spend his resources going for one unit. But I agree, two different units with two different uses. CG Nichol will lead to a bigger power jump though which makes him the clear choice in my mind. His skill set is incredible and we already have units that give 64% breaks that can perform other functions. CG Lid pretty much has a 70% fullbreak LB which, while insane, is not as generally useful due to break resistance/immunity in much of the hardest content.
     
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    CG Lid is not best breaker , yes for only break purpose she is the best but we have some other units with close break potential such as loren and auron while they offers lots of DPS potential too.
    so in the end i suggest you CG nichol
     
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    might aswell wait for 7* Auron he does both their jobs in 1 move::ink::

    AoE 3 Turn -70% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR Debuff & AoE 3 Turn +140% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR
     
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    CG Nichol in my opinion is one of the few “can’t miss” units. His kit is just bananas crazy, and he’s viable in nearly any trial. Lid is great at what she does, but doesn’t hold a candle to Nichol.
     
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    Yes if u look through his skill set. He must be a beast. So strong stance and u can dualcast this stance.
     
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    Until Yuraisha if I understand correctly? Got one of her in JP and she is handy. Don't have 7* to compare tho...
     
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    I would agree with most of the sentiments on this thread and lean towards CG Nichol as well. CG Lid is a top-tier breaker, arguably the best in the business. However, for most people, who already have 9S, Desch, Basch, WoL, or enhanced Delita, they already have some multi-tasking breakers who are relatively viable. Besides, think about it, anyone who uses Basch/WoL to break will also use them as a tank. Just because you bring a better breaker in CG Lid on, doesn't replace the fact that you still need a tank. So CG Lid doesn't actually offer any additional benefits in terms of slot efficiency. That starts to cause problems with 5-man clears because now you're having to dedicate an entire slot just for a breaker. Imo, most people will simply take the 45% AOE erasor moves and consolidate that breaker role into the tank role they already have, even IF CG Lid can break slightly better. Let's face it, if the difference between your squad's success and ultimate death in a trial lies in that 5% difference in debuffs, you're probably doing something wrong in the first place.

    CG Nichol, on the other hand, offers a variety of support (AOE buffs, bar-spells, MP refresh-on-demand, HP/MP HoT) without any of the weaknesses that a bard has with singing moves. His eventual 7* is also alot better than CG Lid's 7* in terms of investment. It's hard to argue against CG Nichol in this comparison because in short, there are plenty of other breaker options aside from Lid. There's not alot of other units comparable to what CG Nichol has to offer.
     
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    I will agree that in JP Auron is the best breaker, but he is 8-ish months away.

    Edit: As others have said there are other breakers that are equal(and near equal) to CG Lid now(and to her 7* later). Sometimes it is one unit has ATK/DEF and another has MAG/SPR, but often there is a reason where taking both of those units is better than taking one Lid. Its why I'm mostly passing on her. A few pulls just to see and that is it.
     
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    True, but still.
    Lid is a hell of a breaker, not only with her LB. I understand if future content will be break immune, though, which leads into CG Nichol being the best option.
    ...Unless... Future content decides to Dispel everytime you buff...?
     
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    Cheers. Thanks all for the input. CG Nichol it is!
     

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