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Community dare: the vossler challenge

Discussion in 'Rants, Raves and Accomplishments' started by RaagisEd, Nov 22, 2021.

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  1. RaagisEd

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    Just kidding, this is just me sharing my accomplishment :D

    Gumi selling their meta CoW tank but no worries, this event can be cheesed with a 7* tank.

    Disclaimer i was richly inspired by someone on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExv...lers_meme_tanking_for_hyda_theoretically_for/ (Thanks soul_u_say ::up::)

    Lvl 99, staying alive for 4 turns ::blackmage::
    Pictures or it didn't happen:

    vossler_team.png Fenrir_fail.png crap.png vossler_lvl99.png vossler_damage.png

    You'd think there is a lot of RGN involved using a cover with 7% proc, but with a 6-unit team it's not that bad. 2-stacks of mirage make an allmost guarantee to survive ::nerd::

    If you are interested, the gear and rotations
    Sephiroth bissy gear in shift form, just TMR in normal form.
    Riesz: high MP in normal form + some MP refill gear + Fenrir Esper. Shift form gear did not seem to matter much :( Maybe don't be me and equip with esper fill gear.
    Vossler: some HP and i made him full evade because i could. And he actually evades some hits.
    Shadow: equipped with Disease weapon in normal form, dark elemental weapon in shift form
    Roca: low HP build (which comes natural for her) so she takes the death penalty instead of Sephiroth
    Sylvie: equip (s)tmr and less MP than Riesz (i think)

    turn 1: (Order is important: Vossler first, then Roca, Riesz first then Shadow)
    - Vossler cheese parrying
    - Roca: quick on vossler
    - Riesz: Fenrir
    - Shadow: mirage (dont disease yet)
    - Sylvie: AMoE to self + status resists + enable tripplecast
    - Sephiroth: stack 1

    turn 2:
    - Vossler: ? (anything except guard)
    - Roca: quick on vossler
    - Sylvie: MP for Riesz + ???
    - Riesz: 2xdark imperil + break
    - Shadow: mirage
    - Sephiroth: Magnus

    turn 3:
    - Vossler: cheese parrying
    - Roca: LB
    - Shadow: mirage + disease
    - Riesz + Sylvie Chain AMoE
    - Sephiroth LB

    turn 4:
    - Roca: (dead)
    - Sylvie: fill sephiroth LB
    - Riesz: Fenrir (but only if you didn't forget to gear someone other than roca with esper fill)
    - Shadow + Vossler chain AR
    - Sephiroth: LB

    If you do want to challenge me or yourself, i see 3 challenges:
    • see if you can stay alive longer than 4 turns,
    • put on some modifiers (party elemental res- and enemy ATK/MAG% because why not?)
    • Or see if you can clear Echelon 5 with less EX levels ::doink:: (7* units count for -1)
     
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    How close was the damage? Is Riesz necessary? Is 3* necessary? No riesz and only 2* Sephi...
     
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    I had only Sephiroth doing the damage, so yeah i think you'd need him to be EX+3 for that. No specific need for Riesz, i'd say Ling's killers or Cetra Aerith's buffs will make you do more or less the same damage (or even more) But she also breaks 87% and imperils for 130% which helps. You could probably also swap Sylvie and/or Shadow (ling can also 2-stack mirage every turn can't she?)

    For this run though the damage is about spot on ::nerd:: i think the boss's HP is 1.100.000.000. If you add other units that actually do damage plus EX2 Sephiroth that might do it.

    Edit: The good thing is if you can manage to clear it with vossler you can put on some bonus mods without them having any negative effect. I just tried with 170% bonus :D
     
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    Let's see someone try the Libertus challenge.

    Beat any trial with a team of nothing but Libertus, getting the last hit with epic LB spam.
     
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    I saw that strat posted on reddit, that's just crazy and so cool that it actually works! Figures someone would figure out a way to cheese this one ::happy::

    I might give it a try myself after I've gone through my initial high score runs tonight. Waiting patiently for those last 10 shards to EX+2 my Maeve :-P
     
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    Thank God post-release nerfs don´t exist in FFBE, or else Gumi would issue an emergency maintenance to stop a 7* tank from helping to clear content the brand new NV should.
     
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    Uh.....you are either massively underestimating the depths of trashiness that gumpi will sink to, or you've just forgotten that we've had post release nerfs.
     
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    Can´t say I remember. Were any of them non-DPS units?
     
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    I may try it swapping Assassin shadow for Ling and Sylvie for Louise/Lara/Skye... (not sure which one yet...)
     
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    Unfortunatly the CoW event only allows 1 copy per unit. (Or we would all be doing the liberating Libertus spams) I could try a run with single Libertus and use his easy entrust every turn.
    I also have to try out Esther and/or Sieghard clears, but those might be less challenging.

    Indeed! i forgot, that is where i got inspired. Just standing on the shoulders of a giant here. I'll edit in a link.

    Good lucks on that, if all else fails you can always try the Vossler strat, i managed one with 170% bonus mods. (but with Cressnick and high morale you can probably score higher)

    It's stupid how much fun it is to use these little loopholes in "Gumi's plan" and get a bit creative.
     
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    You can choose two of them also one for Riesz (Or get lucky on next weeks premium dark field) Probably Earth is the best element to go with anyway.

    Skye does the most damage on a high morale bar and also chains hefty BS if needed. But Louise can give the gun imperil for Lara really upping her damage, then have lara use her LB. Probably with 3 DPS you should be able to do a clear on lvl99.

    (If you wait too long, i'll try a run myself ;) i can still improve my score with this strategy)
     
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    Nothing says it has to be cash CoW, any trial will do.
     
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    So you waited too long :) i found a sort of rotation, and it can be done, lara adds a decent amount of damage. Even Louise does some damage, i'm not sure how but its not that much anyway. She is there for breaks, gun imperil and lb fill.
    vossler_with_lara.png

    Problem is there is no earth imperil in this team :( i used normal 100% imperil.

    Edit: finalized a rotation, it has a bit of risk on turn 3 and i can't get a 100-chain

    Gears:
    - Louise with highest MP of the team, with also mp-reduction and mp-refresh and such, mp-reductions in shift form.
    - Vossler equipped with Erinyes Ring and an esper/equipment with CWA
    - Lara/Sephiroth equipped to the teeth with LB+killers and stuff
    - Roca lowest HP of the team
    - Ling: tmr/stmr, dragonbrush/call of the wild + some mp/hp/lb fills
    (Ling starts shifted, then shifts every turn until turn 4 to keep her tripple ability)

    turn 1:
    - Vossler cheese
    - Lara: stack 1 LB
    - Sephiroth: stack 1 LB
    - Roca: quick on vossler + 2x LB fill
    - Ling: status resist + 2stack mirage + LB fill
    - Louise: 3xLB fill + stat resists (NF)

    turn 2:
    - Roca: quick on vossler + 1x LB fill + earth imbue
    - Vossler: imperil
    - lara: break (or 2nd LB stack)
    - Ling: Evade 4-stack + killers + give cwa chains
    - Sephiroth: Magnus + 2xDPS (in normal form for dark imperil)
    - Louise: break + gun imperil + 2xLB fill

    turn 3:
    - Vossler: cheese
    - Roca: LB
    - Louise + Ling chain 3xCWA (Louise 4th ability = killers)
    - Lara LB
    - Sephiroth LB

    turn 4:
    - Roca: (dead)
    - Ling: magnus + 2x LB fill (shifted form)
    - Louise + Vossler chain 4xCWA
    - Lara: LB
    - Sephiroth: LB
     
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    Turns out it is actually really easy to survive through the magic phase of this CoW too. If you want to spend a little longer to get that Morale bar more in your favor, Vossler also covers magic damage, and as long as you give him enough elemental resist he takes no damage, dispel the DoT on turn 5 (and maybe 9, 13, 17, ...) to keep it that way, and take your time to prep for higher bursts or for a 100+ chain score.

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    This is how I cleared 99.
     
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    And another clear. I am not looking forward to doing the Variance dance yet.

    This time Vossler makes it possible to clear with the improved Star Player Tidus.
    tidus_clears.png tidus_rocks.png
    It's a bit of a pain to wait for his SLB, luckily mine is EX3, EX2 would have meant a turn 9/10 clear. I think i could have even made this a turn 7 clear ::nerd::
    Also his damage, if you are patient enough, is somehow higher than Sephiroths. 400% ATK buffs instead of 300% probably, or maybe its the gun imperil.
     
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    Allow me to correct myself here. I went in again for a stronger Sephiroth clear:
    seph_again.png seph_damages.png

    Up next. Magus Angela.
     
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    Wel this took some tweaking and endurance, but i've done it. Missed the action damage screenshot, but i did get this
    Vossler_and_Angela.png
    Would have expected her to outdamage Sephiroth by a small 1% or something. Maybe Sephiroth got a good variance on his run.

    gear tip: Angela geared for highest MP in normal form so she takes the mp drains on turn 5. Also wc Ace's STMR in normal form so she keeps her MAG stat.
    Elena equipped with disease weapon(s) in normal form.

    Turn 1
    - Angela: LB.1
    - Vossler: Sword Parrying
    - Aerith: mitigations+2xDPS
    - Elena: shift: enable tripple+elemental resists
    - Ling: (shift) Morale+evades+fill MP
    - Shera: entrust Angela

    Turn 2
    - Angela: LB.2
    - Vossler: Imperil
    - Aerith: mitigations+2xDPS
    - Elena: morale+mitigations
    - Ling: (shift) Morale+evades+status resist
    - Shera: entrust Angela


    Turn 3
    - Angela: LB.3
    - Shera: entrust Angela
    - Vossler: CD Cover+CD mitigations
    - Aerith: mitigations+2xDPS
    - Elena: 2xmorale+barrier
    - Ling: (shift) Morale+evades+killers

    Turn 4
    - Angela: LB.4
    - Shera: entrust Angela
    - Vossler: provoke+mitigations
    - Aerith: mitigations+2xDPS
    - Elena: 2xmorale+barrier
    - Ling: (shift) 80% breaks+evades+magnus mitigation

    Turn 5
    - Ling: (shift)clean movemement+evades+killers
    - Angela: mitigations (shield of mana)
    - Aerith: LB
    - Shera: entrust Aerith
    - Vossler: Sword Parrying
    - Elena: resist breaks+xmorale+barrier

    Turn 6
    - Angela: LB.5
    - Aerith: Rod imperil
    - Shera: entrust Angela
    - Vossler: Imperil
    - Ling: (shift)evades+break+status resists
    - Elena: elemental resists+barrier

    Turn 7 Burst 1
    - Shera: LB
    - Angela: LB
    - Aerith: chain 4x tag
    - Vossler: Provoke+Cover magic
    - Ling: (shift)CD evades+magnus+fill LBs
    - Elena: normal shift: reduce 130% light (and disease)

    Turn 8 Burst 2
    - Shera: (dead)
    - Angela: LB
    - Aerith: chain 4x tag
    - Vossler: 3xBS chain
    - Elena: n3xBS chain
    - Ling: killers
     
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