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Curse you Gilgamesh...Guess I need some advice...

Discussion in 'Team Help' started by Phinny, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Phinny

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    Yeah I just can't do it.

    Trying to go with the slow method, as I'm not sure I can burst enough from 81%->0% or what have you (no Cid). No LMF, no rainbow whip.

    Been using Wilhelm (cover and provoke), Folka (death resist, barriers, mp), 2B (non-elemental, breaks). The others I mix up a bit depending on what friends are available. Last attempt was Fryevia+Seph (dispel/ice chaining/support) with friend LMF (rainbow whip, elemental defense, auto-revive). I've even used a dual-wielding Yan covering most of the elements in place of LMF and she holds her own like a friggin champ. I just can't get through Phase 2. Even with NOT dealing elemental damage, Gilg throws everything at me (True Z 100% KO, X-Slashes, Excalibur II, Excalipoor), wipes the tank, tank auto-revives, isn't covering/voking, team gets wiped either that turn or next as I struggle to full-revive and apply defenses. He has his 50% damage mitigation up, too, so getting to 60% is impossible. And even if I do, how am I going to survive Phase 4 like this? I just don't see it. And after countless YouTube videos, I'm now mystified. What the hell am I doing wrong?

    Could I OTKO with say, Elly+Sophia chaining and cap with Dragonlord? Or Tornado chain? Or does it have to be Cid with his insane man-eater jumping finishes? Trying to survive the onslaught is seemingly impossible...
     
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    True Zantetsuken is a counter if you attack him with Earth element in phase 2 (and 4). Are you sure you don't have any Earth element weapon equipped on your team ? (Especially, on Wilhelm if he is countering)
     
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    Pretty sure you can 5TK with 2B...right?
     
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    Good lord, I forgot to remove Wilhelm's Galkan dagger. smh, what a baffoon I am. Thank you!!
     
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    Like, go in with two 2B, imbue lightning and LB chain? Would I need to cap it or is that chain good enough?
     
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    I think you need to cap it. But with 200% man eater, 2500+ ATK or 1750+ ATK FD, maybe not.
     
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    If one 2b can otk him turn 4 i bet 2 2b will destoy him.
    Even if u cant otk with 2 2b just use the item strat and do it over 2 turns.
     
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    This is an good example of 2 2b using the item strat,tidus is perfect for sealing and lb mission.This guy also doesnt have anything special for gear..
    Now with asura materia and kyanos to boost lb damage 2b can send greg flying..
    Hope it helps!
     
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    Alright, this will be the plan, then, based on the really helpful advice:

    Wilhelm - cover/provoke/lb (non-elemental dagger)
    Folka - barriers, mp
    Yan - dressed up to use necro dagger, lion blade, thunder blade (sealing fire, dark, earth, wind, lightning)
    Zarg - with light/ice weapons, and LB gear for every-other-turn LB if possible.
    2B - ~1360 FD, 250% man-eater (75% diabolos, 50% diabolos, 75% man-eater+, 50% man-eater), TDH FD (marshal gloves, swift hunter, etc). (Side note: Dark Knight's Knowledge or Brave Soul for 30% atk, 25% man-eater?)
    (2B friend) - To be determined, hopefully ~1400 FD man-eater.

    I will turtle and seal away until I get my 8 LBs in and elemental attacks done.
    Prep-turn: 2Bs use CD and charge/open up abilities
    Prep-turn II: 2Bs imbue thunder element
    (Prep-turn III: one 2B imperils lightning, the other Yorha break in case Gilg is doing his Genji thing and buffing)
    Day of Reckoning: Unleash fully leveled 2B limit bursts, elemental chain.
    Emergency: Use elemental items to "stun" Greg, chain more lightning damage down.

    Think it will work? When do I use the item to stun? If I push all those thresholds at once, G will be quite angry...
     
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    Dude I forgot all about the Asura materia. Okay, that's going into the gumbo!!
     
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    Should work. I’d imagine it’ll go like this:
    Turn 1: Supreme Support Weapon
    Turn 2: True Charge Volt, Item
    Turn 3: True Charge Spear, Item
    Turn 4: YoRHA Sword Dance, Item
    Turn 5: Ho229 Type-B

    I can add you, I can build something like 1400 ATK FD TDH with 200% Man-Eater (But no LB damage boost, haven’t gotten to Asura yet).
     
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    I will not say no to that! Sure, I'll make room now. Done. ID is over there <---- .
    Thank you very much!
     
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    Loool 188 rank with elly stmr my god good friend come here,accepted!::rudecat14::

    Funny 2b does slightly more damage with man eater+ instead of buster style lol.
    Also she does slightly more with man eater+ instead of dark aspirations but i prefer her to be a little more tanky..
    Swaping cloud for man eater+ and she is ready for battle!
     
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    Hahah, yes I was lucky (or "worked hard") to get Sophia's STMR as well, but it's best suited for her. lol, I play more than I should (but not long enough that I could develop this 2B Greg strat on my own, hah). Feel free to keep me around! Awesome, I'm gonna try a few refreshes and give this a shot now or perhaps later. Thanks again!
     
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    Ofc i keep u around haha!
    If you are going for a turn 5 kill be careful not to push greg under 80% on turn 4 unless u used all 3 items!
    Your item user needs some holy res!
    With my 2b u can probably kill him with lb on turn 4 but use the items just to be safe ^^
    Best of luck man!
     
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    We did it!! First try with the new strategy. Couldn't do the 5 turns thing because of the building up of 8 LBs. The other difficulty was for some reason Yan kept dying, so I had to make a few quick moves to keep her afloat and sealing. So up to 10 turns, the 2Bs were building up as you and @Seven were saying, Supreme weapon, True charge, Spear, Volt... and then LBs away! Took all the buffs, debuffs, imperils, lightning elemental chaining, and a couple lucky FD rolls, and it was done on Turn 10.

    Thanks a ton @MikePro , @Seven , @aa25 . I'm grateful!

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    Very nice man gz!!
     
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    gratz!

    pls add me tho request just sent
     
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