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Do we know, roughly, what NV banners will look like?

Discussion in 'General' started by Realityfelon, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. Realityfelon

    Realityfelon Ascended Member

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    I'm trying to plan out my Lapis spending and I'm debating if I'm going to grab this 10k STMR moogle or not. Basically if The only way you can get NV units is to throw Lapis at 10+1 summons, I'm going to stick with the older units that get Brave Shift Versions.

    But if there's some kind of improved odds for NV units, I might save my Lapis for that. Anyone have any idea? I've watched some JP version pull videos and honestly it SEEMS like there's no system, it's just spend for a 10+1 and take your chances.
     
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    Ummf. AFAIK, the normal rate is like, 1%, and it seems like normal banners and step ups, but I don't know how the banner rate affects things. And now that we've confirmed that Limited units can be NV as well, some kind of guarantee is almost MANDATED.
     
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    JP banners have 10% rainbow. It have been 1%~2% for base NV (starting at 1%, increasing as the pool expands. with 1% featured and the rest off-banner), 1.5% for 3 units (that can be either old units awakened to NV, or new units without NV), the rest of the 10% being off-banner rainbows only.

    JP has no step ups, but had some random promotions:

    - each 10+1 gives a tickets, for 8 you can get the banner NV unit.
    - for each 3x 10+1 you do, the 4th is free.
    and some others less relevant

    Those are the two I remember

    Also, they gave unit shards for free through some methods (daily rewards, event rewards...), If you do everything you are guaranteed at last enough shards to EX+1 a unit.

    One thing to notice is that for some of the old units, if you don't pull for them, you will be only able to get them from the EX pool, as most of them aren't part of the refined pool.
     
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  4. Realityfelon

    Realityfelon Ascended Member

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    Cool, thank you, I appreciate it. Might end up sitting on my lapis for a while instead of chasing another STMR Ticket and 10 Random rainbows.
     
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    Ashlag Avoid political talk here, it's a landmine Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

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    That should be the 40k lapis safety net I heard of. So yeah, quite expensive, but afaik there are more lapis in circulation too currently in JP.
     
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    So when old units get NV awakening, they aren't released with some kind of rerun banner?
     
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    I really want a NV Gilgamesh.
    OMG! They need to have separate banners so we can at least still summon old 5* units or maybe slowly add units to the 5* Select Ticket Summon Pool. But I guess the bright side is that we at least get dailies and event rewards that will help in the NV Era.
     
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    I've not done this as I hoard units, but this has to suck for all the people who have sold 5* units to the Trust Coin shop.
     
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    Thats their own fault if they didn't listen to people when we said DO NOT sell 5* units... but yeah it also sucks that a 7* copy WITH its STMR is apparently only worth a regular 7* copy. Makes absolutely no sense at all. Especially for units that have decent STMR's....like my 9 BSS's right now is 2 7*'s with STMRs but apparently I might as well only have 7 BSS's.
     
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    My thinking was that the stmr moogle
    Is super valuable for the NV. If you have 5 tifas, add a stmr moogle and you have 7 tifas, which you need for nv+1. My understanding is that a guaranteed nv is 40,000 lapis, and you may need more lapis than that to get it +1. I would not use lapis on a new NV until the unit 2xs free units or is a god level support
     
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    They are dropped on the banner of the new NV unit they are released with. So you have a better chance of pulling them at the time they are new. I think 5* that get NV are also added back to the summonfest/refined pool.
     
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    What will they look like? Trash.
     
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    Yeah that was where my mind was going too. Really I'm just being indecisive.
     
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    It is something stupid to do. If 7★ should have teach something to people is to never discard 5★ dupes, you never know when they will become useful. And such a small reward as 500 trust coin is totally not worth the possibility of disappointment.
     
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    Actually just here to say that I still dont have OG Gilgamesh, FOUR years later. ::joy::
    In my case, my mind was made up in the opposite direction - would basically stop pulling for any NV banners, and go for value-for-lapis deals like 11r + STMR pulls. Because ...
    Yah, in this sense the STMR moogle is like 2 extra units. Will urge people to use them wisely.

    Without a guarantee like GL on NV banners, it can be a pointless exercise. I still didnt regret not going for Xon on Black Friday for this reason. I repeat, when NV hits, I may stop pulling entirely. This FoL could be the last one I buy then.

    For the Hoard~! ::toad::::cactuar::::doink:: (best looking "orcs" I can find in the forum).
     
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    Yes, it is rather stupid how they are making it almost a bad thing for you to get the STMR instead of saving them all for NV fusion purposes. Having the STMR should put a flag up that it requires less remaining units instead of making it equal to a regular 7* without the STMR.
     
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    They'll all have an image of a black hole with our lapis getting sucked in. :)
     
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    no idea tho XD
    but i know for sure that, even you hoard 100k lapis, you still can't get the NV.

    its like hopping 99% hit chance to miss...
     
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    It's your soul and the one of your now-totally-slim wallet.
     
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    I think right now we have no real way of knowing how Gumi will implement it. Seeing as we got a totally different "summon fest" our NV banners might also be totally different than the JP counterpart. I would be satisfied with a global 10% summon rate in itself, both on EX and banner summons.
     
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