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Don't sleep on BS Prompto

Discussion in 'General' started by PrezObama, May 3, 2021.

  1. PrezObama

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    The Brave Shift form of Prompto has two single-use finisher abilities that are very good for FTKO strategies and DV bursting:

    Sagitta Rifle: 450x mod ST with 87% DEF break
    Alea Bazooka: 300x mod AOE

    While the builds are STMR heavy I built Prompto and Lassgen for comparison in the builder.

    Prompto BS NV★
    Right hand: Black Sparky ATK+174, ATK+112% (IW :ATK +40%, ATK +12%, ATK +10%)
    Head: Red Hellebore MP+20%, ATK+60, DEF+29, MAG+60
    Body: Kingly Raiment (FFXV) ATK+57, DEF+30, SPR+40
    Accessory 1: Warlord Leg Guards ATK+65
    Accessory 2: Steward's Pumps MP+20%, ATK+55, ATK+50%, DEF+24
    Materia 1: Indestructible Light
    Materia 2: Master of Fate
    Vision Card: The Keyblade Graveyard Battle ATK+100, ATK+60%
    Esper: Bahamut HP+179, MP+176, ATK+165, DEF+165, MAG+165, SPR+165
    Total: HP:10999, MP:1211, ATK:5650, DEF:564, MAG:563, SPR:767

    Lasswell & Raegen BS NV★
    Right hand: Dark Masamune++ HP+20%, ATK+230, ATK+42% (IW :HP/ATK +20%, ATK +10%, ATK +12%)
    Left hand: Darkness Purging Blades of Azure Crimson HP+20%, ATK+192, ATK+42% (IW :HP/ATK +20%, ATK +10%, ATK +12%)
    Head: Red Hellebore MP+20%, ATK+60, DEF+29, MAG+60
    Body: Kingly Raiment (FFXV) ATK+57, DEF+30, SPR+40
    Accessory 1: Warlord Leg Guards ATK+65
    Accessory 2: Warlord Leg Guards ATK+65
    Materia 1: A Lion's Heart
    Materia 2: Guardian of Light (Sora) ATK+80%
    Vision Card: The Keyblade Graveyard Battle ATK+100, ATK+60%
    Total: HP:13152, MP:822, ATK:5862, DEF:439, MAG:335, SPR:389

    This assumes a 250% external ATK buff for Prompto and a 300% ATK/200% LB buff for Lassgen (from his own CD skill).

    Both of these builds leave 2 spots open for killers on each unit. Assuming max chains (5x for Prompto, 6x for Lassgen) you get:

    25.7B for Prompto using both finishers
    24.1B for Lassgen using his LB

    Prompto goes to 27.8B if you get a 300% ATK buff spread to him. Keep in mind Lassgen needs two turns for this and Prompto can do it on turn 1 for farmable content.

    You only get this burst from Prompto once but for DV and farmable content, he's a beast.
     
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    how's he compare to tifa's lb?
     
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    Found this out recently while figuring out how to one-shot Levi too. He has been helping me beating Levi on turn one. He is indeed a gem of this event.

    Edit: FWIW, if you gear him TDW (may be you need elemental weapon or you don't have TDH gear for him), his Sagitta Rifle proc'd twice netting 900x. Altough, since he doesn't have 6x chain mod, this is actually weaker than going TDH and cast both Rifle and Bazooka.
     
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  4. FaRFrOmPoOpIn

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    i dont think i can sleep on him anyway, he a bit scrawny and boney.
     
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    Wondering if his Circular Saw+ (base form) also increases the modifiers for Alea Bazooka and Sagitta Rifle in his brave shift form.
     
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    Also don't ask where the hell he keeps all those weapons.
     
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    Not going to lie, the worst thing here is all those +12%s on your Item World stuff. Making me wonder if I have OCD.
     
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    Did you assume a 87% break for Prompto for all his skills? If so,your math is wrong.

    [1 use per battle, unique selection on multicast]
    Physical damage (450x) to one enemy
    Decrease DEF (87%) for 2 turns to one enemy


    Things happen in order,so if you single cast it,the damage happens before the break applies. If you dw it,the second cast will benefit from the break. (He can multicast his lower break,but that's a chain which might break support chains).

    Alea Bazooka does benefit from it with a multicast though(if it comes after Saggita Rifle).


    And,while i haven't done any math about it,dual wielding Sagitta Rifle is probably better than Saggita Rifle+1.5x variance. Sagitta Rifle+Alea Bazooka has the problem of only Alea Bazooka benefitting from the break.


    (Slight notice,if you're building stmr tier builds,use things like upgraded CPN stmr instead... and a 110 attack card for Lassgen,since you're already using CBN's stmr...)
     
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    It should,since brave shifting doesn't remove buffs(and mod boosts are buffs).
     
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    But the abilities it buffs are the ones unlocked, that happens to have the same name, but are different abilities.

    Most likely it won't work.
     
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    True,shows how little i used him(never).
    His Audax Blade would still work though(+10x).
     
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    I have him on 7*. Wonder should I STMR moogle him, since we got enough shards to NV+1 him.
     
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    I actually really like Prompto !

    He is great for first turn KO

     
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    I assumed an external 85% break for both. And I just did a quick and dirty build for both to offer the comparison of just how bursty he is, not to min/max optimize anything. But I'll look into the DW build could be interesting.

    EDIT: Looks like DW hits 21.4B
     
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    Daaaanngg. I tried this out on the raid boss just to get an idea of the damage. Went from doing 3b chaining to 9b with Prompto alone. Nice. Thanks, Prez. I would have never given him a second glance if it weren't for this thread ::up::
     
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    Tks. I wish he could equip more than a knife or gun
     
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    I think the special thing about TDW for him is that you don't always need him at highest possible dmg in farming;
    1.For farming, sometimes being able to give him some element through the second weapon instead which may save you a unit slot for more bonus unit.
    2. Likewise, you can also ignore external breaker entirely and rely on the first hit to apply DEF break, and the second to deal the killing dmg.

    On a related note, with the green magic upgrades and with the right build, Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh + Imperil materia (craftable), can turn any (bonus) units into decent Breaker (Deprotect/Defaith are 75% break), imperil (100% all elements), and Brave/Faith (200% STR/MAG buffs). So, more room for bonus units. Not the best, but enough in many cases. For chaining, many -ga spells are now CWA, so any units can make chain now, as long as the farming boss is not immune to magic.
     
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