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Help with Hyoh

Discussion in 'Unit Builds' started by Born4Gaming, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Born4Gaming

    Born4Gaming Ascended Member

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    Just seeking some help on my Hyoh build.
    I've seen plenty of his builds that exceed 2000 attack and was aiming for that but keep falling short of the mark despite having better equipment and/or abilities than some of the ones I've seen on my friends list... What am I missing?

    His current build (currently at 1961 attack with a 3* Ifrit equipped with all attack nods unlocked) Hyoh2.jpg Hyoh.jpg

    This is one of my friends Hyoh (keep in mind both swords his and mine, are enhanced with roughly the same damage addons) The only difference is Clouds Cloak but that shouldn't account for a 300+ attack increase..
    Hyohfriend1.jpg Hyohfriend2.jpg

    Not sure if I'm missing something but any help to boost his attack would be appreciated.
    Thanks!
     
  2. Shr

    Shr Arena Grand Champion Arena Grand Champion Spooky Arena Runner Up S3 VIP Supporter Monthly Arena Champ S2 Monthly Arena Champ S1

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    Have you considered the tdh cap? I am pretty sure you are over it. Remove swift hunter and put a normal atk materia
     
  3. Born4Gaming

    Born4Gaming Ascended Member

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    I replaced swift hunter as you suggested with Fortitude and Vigor (atk 40%) and Hyoh's atk dropped to 1856 from 1961..
     
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    Is your hyoH atk potted?
     
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    Is your Hyoh fully potted? Is the only thing i can think of, and the builder gives me roughtly the same atk with both builds:
    Yours:
    Hyoh 7★
    Right hand: Revolving Saw ATK+130 (no iw)
    Head: Prishe's Hairpin HP+10%, MP+10%, ATK+45
    Body: Hyoh's Clothes ATK+28, ATK+30%, DEF+42
    Accessory 1: Marshal Glove ATK+40
    Accessory 2: Ifrit's Claw HP+10%, ATK+30
    Materia 1: Buster Style
    Materia 2: Adventurer V ATK+40%, DEF+40%, MAG+40%, SPR+40%
    Materia 3: Swift Hunter ATK+25%
    Materia 4: Large Sword Mastery ATK+50%
    Esper: Ifrit HP+74, MP+46, ATK+79, DEF+50, MAG+38, SPR+38
    Total: HP:9087, MP:437, ATK:2122, DEF:400, MAG:292, SPR:374

    Your friend's:
    Hyoh 7★
    Right hand: Tonitrus ATK+120 (no iw)
    Head: Prishe's Hairpin HP+10%, MP+10%, ATK+45
    Body: Hyoh's Clothes ATK+28, ATK+30%, DEF+42
    Accessory 1: Marshal Glove ATK+40
    Accessory 2: Cloud's Cloak (KH) ATK+40, DEF+10, SPR+10
    Materia 1: Buster Style
    Materia 2: Instinctual Guard ATK+40%
    Materia 3: Large Sword Mastery ATK+50%
    Materia 4: Fortitude and Vigor ATK+40%
    Esper: Ifrit HP+74, MP+46, ATK+79, DEF+50, MAG+38, SPR+38
    Total: HP:8557, MP:437, ATK:2162, DEF:322, MAG:220, SPR:300
     
  6. Shr

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    Yeah, definitely not potted
    My Hyoh with your gear without iw enhancements
    Screenshot_20190119-231141__01.jpg
     
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    No he's not fully potted yet, still missing 54 attack from pots but that wouldn't make such a big discrepancy between the two Hyoh builds. That's the part that frustrates me lol!
     
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    See what I mean? Your Hyoh with the same gear exceeds my attack by 161. I can't figure out what's missing besides the 54 attack points from pots...
     
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    54 atks flats plus percentages, that is the reason
     
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    I see I underestimated the impact of potting.. Thanks for your help with this!
     
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    yeah pots would help... a LOT. They increase your base stats which makes your percentages go wayyyyy uppppp
     
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    Yea because the formula for all % increase materias and buffs is based on the base stats + pots. Gear is not included in this.
     

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