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How good is Reberta now?

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by william98chandra, May 22, 2020 at 6:51 AM.

  1. william98chandra

    william98chandra Ascended Member

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    I can gear her towards 3000 ATK, 750% jump damage, and 1 empty slot for killer.

    She's better used as jump dmg dealer or usual chaining?

    How does she fare against other DD. Thx guys.
     
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    There is unit review for her under unit discussions with her latest included.
     
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    I don't see the thread, may i know which thread it is? Thx bro
     
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    You may want to check @Sinzar latest vid as well.

     
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    Thx dude, but I was hoping to use reberta to chain jump with her death crimson. Does the timed jump works well with the chain from death crimson? Is it easy to cap it?
     
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    We have some good news and some bad news about that... the good news is that the enhancements make reberta a viable dragoon that can clear certaim content easily, like Tiamat and bloody moon. The bad news is that it’s with her
    Magic breath moves and not jump moves. TWIST! Why was a physical damage dragoon changed to a magical damage chainer? What is the meaning of life? Beats me!
     
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    damn dat's just sad..
     
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    I’m both surprised and happy to see someone referring others to review. And for anyone that doesn’t need to read the whole nine yards of her update, the long and short of it is, she’s a viable dragoon finisher now, able to compete with Freya with little gear investment, but has poor STMR scaling comparatively. So if you don’t have a lot of stuff to fully kit out Freya, you might wanna consider Reberta. And she’s about the single strongest unit I can think of to use against Humans with her buffed Red Vengeance.
     
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    I have cid, so I am ok with him for my dragoon needs. I kind of like that reberta can chain BS frames for magic skills. I can't chain CWA frames for the life of me, so my top tier mages can't do much if I am not on an emulator, which is boring.
     
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    can u plz explain how her breath works? does it deal magic dmg? does it apply killers? if yes which killer, the magic or the physical one? Does it work like XWQL's skills mechanics (using SPR to deal magic dmg but is counted as physical)?
     
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    You have to use magic killers, and it by passes physical resistances, but it uses attack to determine damages and scales against Def. The skill has got to be good since sinzar posted a 7 turn clear of Tiamat. also, the i think I do not like reberta's dragoon skill rotation sucks, although there is decent damage there. I like cid because he only does damage every third turn, so you can have two of them and have two support units do their skills on turn 1 and 2 and chain on three. Reberta does damage every turn, , with one turn with little damage and 2 turns with bugger damages, so there is little utility for that when you need two chainers to chain 2 out of 3 turns. That is my take at least.

    Edit - just relizing that I think his best magic attack with physical damage is DR frames. Ughhh. Not sure if that is easier than CWA :( My crummy iphone accessibility gesture can tripple chain AME, and fails for most other things that typcially break when dual casted or tripple casted.
     
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    Ahh, thanks for enlightening me lol I get it now
     
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    Nah she's not. It's the same problem as Firion. Killer bonus are good but not if you have low mod.
     
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    Using Reberta with 625% extra jump damage, Diabolos and Man-Eater+ for human killer, assuming chain capping, you’d get:
    10 base x 7.25 jump x 6 chain cap x 2 imperil x 5 killer x 2 dual wield = 8700x mod against humans. Doesn’t seem too shabby to me. Especially since she doesn’t even need any external imperil or imbue in this scenario.
     
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    I don't think the killer is 5x it would be 3x. So the mod would 5220. Not bad, I am a Cid preferer because he doubles that on one turn every three turns. And Reberta pumps that modifier out twice over three turns

    Cid, with jump damage of 2.5 and a max chain cap of 4 === 40 x 4.75 jump x 4 chain cap x2 imperil X 3 killer x 2 dual wield - 9120, which is higher than 5220. I guess this is COMPLETELY moot if you don;t have Cid. I must have Cid daddy issues..
     
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    It would be 3x if you didn’t give her any human killer passives. However, since the jump comes with a 200% human killer buff, it gets added to the 200% you would get from the standard Esper plus killer+ combo. So 1 + 2 + 2 = 5.
    If we were to do a full damage comparison using non-STMR, no limited 5* builds, Reberta would output a damage of 219,166,559,115 vs humans, while Cid would output 122,958,381,237. So a 178% increase in damage while still being able to fit an extra jump in before needing to rebuff.
     
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