1. Rules regarding the forum and the chatbox can be found here!. Our most recent update: here!.
  2. Want more banners on your profile? You can achieve the Arena Runner Up and Monthly Arena Champ banner now in the Monthly Arena Contest! If you want to participate, click on the link here
  3. Be part of the campaign rinny launched, now hosted by Memel0rd, and earn a new banner on the forum, The Supporter Campaign! - Check out the thread for more details Here
  4. Interested or play the JP version of ffbe? Join the discussions in our JP section here!.
  5. We now have our own Discord Server up and running! For more information, go to the thread here!.

Lila and 2B chains (they work, and it's kind of amazing)

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by Fabell, May 30, 2019.

  1. Fabell

    Fabell "Hall of Fame" Member Supporter

    Messages:
    977
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Global ID:
    283,107,679
    Leads:
    Lila, TT, Setzer, Sylvie, 2B
    Rank:
    170
    So some of you may have noticed that Lila and 2B now have two chaining families together (Graviton Cannon and Stardust Ray). Others have mentioned that 2B's abilities are either cooldown abilities or unlocked abilities, which makes chaining these two together kind of tricky.

    However, if you use them together, the ability breakdown is as such:

    Turn 1:
    Lila --> Neidan
    2B --> Supreme Support Weapon

    Turn 2:
    Lila --> Self-imbues
    2B --> True Charge Blade

    Turn 3:
    Lila --> Neidan/Twin Palms/whatever
    2B --> LB for the break

    Turn 4: (here is where the fun starts)
    Lila --> Heaven Shift
    2B --> YoRHa Sword Dance

    Turn 5:
    Lila --> repeat (with T-cast Double Heaven Shift + Calm Mind if necessary; or put imbues at end of double Heaven Shift if needed)
    2B --> YoRHa Slaughter Dance

    And then repeat...

    FOREVER.

    (I'm not kidding about this.)

    YoRHa Sword Dance has a 4-turn cooldown. YoRHa Slaughter Dance is also unlocked for 4 turns. So once you start the Dance, the Dance never actually ends (once YoRHa Slaughter Dance is unavailable, the Sword Dance is unlocked again). 2B and Lila can chain quite happily into old age.

    Note: if you have built Lila into an ATK user, then you are restricted to just chaining together Tojin Combo and True Charge Spear. Not worth it, IMO. However, given that with her STMR Lila can now go over 1k ATK while still having more than 2k SPR, it's not so useless when you consider you can use her self-imbue for lightning at the same time as 2B.

    I have no STMRs (except for her own) and my Lila (after being buffed by Sylvie) is around 1.6k ATK and 2.1k SPR). So she can comfortably move from one to the other without much worry. If you have STMRs, then Lila can reach the levels of a goddess (2.5k SPR after a 200% buff).

    Lila 7★ (the build is giving the wrong stats, so I have put in red the actual stats and deleted the Builder stats)
    Right hand: Knuckles of Hope HP+25%, MP+30%, ATK+20, SPR+110 (IW :Auto-Regen 3, HP +10%, HP +15%)
    Left hand: Knuckles of Hope MP+30%, ATK+20, ATK+12%, SPR+110, SPR+7% (IW :ATK +12%, SPR +7%, Auto-Shell 4)
    Head: Hairpin of Purity DEF+10, MAG+24, SPR+51
    Body: Calming Garb HP+1500, MP+150, ATK+18, DEF+48, SPR+48
    Accessory 1: Photo Locket SPR+22, SPR+15%
    Accessory 2: Twin Bunny Clips HP+10%, MP+10%, DEF+35, SPR+35
    Materia 1: Hero's Vow - Light SPR+60%
    Materia 2: Adventurer V ATK+40%, DEF+40%, MAG+40%, SPR+40%
    Materia 3: Saint's Aura HP+10%, MP+10%, ATK+30%, SPR+30%
    Materia 4: Saint's Aura HP+10%, MP+10%, ATK+30%, SPR+30%
    Esper: Lakshmi HP+77, MP+66, ATK+41, DEF+46, MAG+44, SPR+72
    Total: HP:12869, MP:1066, ATK:1173, DEF:449, MAG:271, SPR:1917

    2B 7★
    Right hand: Virtuous Contract MP+20%, ATK+130, ATK+15% (IW :ATK +10%, ATK +5%, Auto-Regen 3)
    Left hand: Flaming Blade Agni HP+30%, ATK+125, ATK+20%, SPR+15% (IW :Rare lvl4, SPR +15%, HP +10%)
    Head: Prishe's Hairpin HP+10%, MP+10%, ATK+45
    Body: Hyoh's Clothes ATK+28, ATK+30%, DEF+42
    Accessory 1: Lucid Lenses ATK+55
    Accessory 2: Desch's Earring ATK+45
    Materia 1: Hero's Vow - Dark ATK+60%
    Materia 2: Adventurer V ATK+40%, DEF+40%, MAG+40%, SPR+40%
    Materia 3: Past Regrets ATK+60%, SPR+-10%
    Materia 4: Power of Id ATK+50%, DEF+20%
    Esper: Diabolos HP+66, MP+76, ATK+31, DEF+44, MAG+68, SPR+43
    Total: HP:9699, MP:683, ATK:2032, DEF:574, MAG:250, SPR:460

    Now, I didn't keep track of the dummy stats turn-by-turn, but I can say with my team of Ultima/Elly, Sylvie, and 2B/Lila, I was able to hit 475,120,450 damage in just one turn alone, and over all 10 turns I was able to hit around 2,147,483,647 damage. (I captured those images on my phone for posterity.)

    I was previously using a FD build for 2B, but actually did more damage with the above build for 2B. Obviously, if you have 2B's STMR you are going to be able to exceed my numbers exceptionally. I only ever got two of her, so I guess I'll be waiting until the next collab...

    One final thing I want to say is that if you screw up your chain, you are literally losing millions and millions of damage. The numbers with Lila and 2B scale so high (at least for me) that if I make a mistake chaining I need to reset the game and try again. I don't have a ton of the meta STMRs though, or the recent top-tier units like Esther, Zeno, or whatever. I only have Sylvie, and she is primarily in my team as bard and element imbuer.
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2019
    Ascalibur, VINH, Eynskaet and 6 others like this.
  2. 21er

    21er "Hall of Fame" Member Supporter

    Messages:
    1,165
    Likes Received:
    1,188
    Joined:
    May 28, 2018
    Global ID:
    912134376
    Leads:
    Esther
    Rank:
    > 180
    Can you post your Lila build?
     
    Fabell likes this.
  3. Andys

    Andys Ascended Member

    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    131
    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Global ID:
    436878720
    Dammit, why can't we use friend units in training dummy room :(((
    I want to try but alas no 2B only Lila
     
  4. Fabell

    Fabell "Hall of Fame" Member Supporter

    Messages:
    977
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Global ID:
    283,107,679
    Leads:
    Lila, TT, Setzer, Sylvie, 2B
    Rank:
    170
    Posted in the spoiler. Hopefully that helps!
     
  5. aa25

    aa25 VIP VIP

    Messages:
    4,802
    Likes Received:
    5,666
    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2018
    Global ID:
    544243982
    Leads:
    Lilith/Evt/Evt/Esther/Yuna
    Rank:
    185
    Why Agni ? 2B's SR chain move will imbue herself with Lightning and her GC chain move has innate Lightning element. I am not sure if making 2B dual-element is a good idea.
     
  6. Fabell

    Fabell "Hall of Fame" Member Supporter

    Messages:
    977
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Global ID:
    283,107,679
    Leads:
    Lila, TT, Setzer, Sylvie, 2B
    Rank:
    170
    Strongest great sword I have, in order to work with Hyoh's Clothes...

    That, and using Lila I can imbue her with fire.

    It's a weakness of the build, but if a boss is resistant to fire you can just switch to another great sword. For me, I'd probably switch to Beastlord (next highest) if that were the case.
     
  7. Novaultima

    Novaultima VIP VIP

    Messages:
    2,716
    Likes Received:
    1,056
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2016
    Global ID:
    441 833 663
    Leads:
    2B upgr nonelmt
    Rank:
    150
    I have 2B and Lila, but no room for Lila :x

    Anyway i use Sylvie to make 2B chaining with anyone if needed, even though the mod is kinda meh.

    I just use raw non chaining power lately anyway, 2B + any strongest solo dps friend. Looking forward to more Regina friends :3


    Maybe when i don´t need support(Sylvie) i could exchange her for Lila. But Sylvie is... kinda unreplacable.


    I propably just use 2B friends as long as i have some up.

    My own 2B is doing insane solo damage anyway, there is barely any content where i need friend units anymore.
     

Share This Page