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Nagi is getting GL enhancements?

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by Danziger, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. Danziger

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    Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    But from what I read she definitely gets some global enhancements.

    They want to change some chains from 7 to 9 hits (BS?).

    She's getting way more stat buffs and equipment atk/mag buffs than in JP?

    What do you guys think? Will she be no. 1 above Levi? Will she do more damage than XWQL even? I'm excited.

    EDIT:
    So after a second look only the weak attacks are getting BS while the strong ones remain untouched in the frames. So her strong attacks will still be DR.

    In JP she got dualcast. I don't see the dualcast passive in the news. Would this be the downside or did they forget to mention it?
     
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  2. victor sant

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    Considering that in JP she got ZERO passive stats from enhancements (she got 6x chain cap and increased killer, but no ATK/MAG/TDW whatever), it is not hard to get "more than JP".

    She is getting huge TDW (150% for both ATK and MAG) on and 120% ATK/MAG from trust passive (previously 50%) and 30% ATK/MAG from Ambush.

    The dualcast was from Latent Abilities obtained from Vlad SBB. And it was enabled by an active.
     
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    Interesting. I wonder if without the Dualcast she would be missing something. As I understand it her rotation would be super easy. Just buff herself on turn one and then just use one of her two elements that has the elemental attack as well as the imperil on it. Right?

    That would leave her to 60x modifier + some additional modifier from passives and a buff?

    Sounds like she could loose against A. Fry. Or maybe her high atk and def passives are saving her?
     
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    Hope she gets nice boosts as I have some real nice STMRs for hybrids (including hers) and her Sprite is cool
     
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    Man, she gets 200 TDW/MTDW with only her STMR equipped. I would add two Ravenhearts to this beauty just for the fun of it :D

    Put Adventurer V on her, two of Malphasies fists, Karlettes STMR, New Noctis TMR and you're good to go.

    If needed Kartens TMR.

    I'm waiting for so log for a TDW hybrid.
     
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    All 3 of these units are getting gl buffs. The only 1 of the 3 that got “enough” help was Nagi. Yego and Crimson will be bench warmers still for most ppl
     
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    Therefore I just mentioned her. And of course because I love TDW/MTDW or TDW/MTDW gear loves me.
     
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    I have her stmr. Useless stmr for a useless unit.
     
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    question.

    how mana hungry is nagi?

    see her buffs are making them cost more.
     
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    Without DC (atm) should not be a big problem make her viable.
     
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    Her dualcast is garbage. It is a single hit skill with low damage (24x) that enables w-cast for 4 turns (3 uses).

    In the end it is pretty garbage since the actions gained by it doesn't compensate the loss of the turn

    Without it you can use

    - CD
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)

    Now let's use the W-cast enabler

    - enabler (48x, no chain mod)
    - CD + Chain (60x * chain mod)
    - Chain + CD finisher (60x * chain mod + 70x * 6)
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)

    In the end, the damage gained by being able to CD + chain, and then chain + CD finisher is lower than the loss of doing not chaining turn 1.
     
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    Any idea what her damage output will look like compared to what we have? Will she top the meta?
     
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    I'm actually pretty excited about this since I have her STMR. If her light chaining move remains DR then she'll be a perfect match-up with my A.Fry. Very interesting.
     
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    She will be below Levinson.

    no triple cast pretty much puts her out of meta

     
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    I dunno, Tifa makes a strong case for being pretty meta despite not having triple cast. I think they may go the same way with Nagi.
     
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    It heavily depends on how her stats can be capped and how her non-STMR BiS looks like. I'll assume something between 16 and 18B damage. I'll do some maths later.
     
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    Not that easy doing maths without the new percentages added into the builder. You can only simulate the new percentages with some STMR. For that I would need to calculate how her final ATK/MAG % after enhancements looks like.

    EDIT:
    Pre enhancements total ATK/MAG% = 140/120
    Post enhancements total ATK/MAG% = 240/240
     
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    This would be her TMR BIS buid i think. (250% buffs included)

    Warrior of the Crystal and Ravenheart is just there to simulate the extra 100% ATK/MAG and the 50% equipment ATK/MAG. So in the post enhancement build you could replace Ravenheart with Dragon's Crest and Warrior of the Crystal with a Killer.

    [​IMG]

    https://ffbeEquip.com/builder.html?server=GL#3fff6780-6e60-11ea-8e1c-0f5c05b763e9

    Now we only need to factor in her new mods (2x60x after CD), the 6x chain cap increase and the 120% imperil.

    @victor sant On turn three it would be better to go with her CD - that is, if the CD is going off twice. It would be 2*70x mod - 140x. Or did I miss something?

    - CD - Clad in Power
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)
    - CD - Projection - Dance of Destruction - 2x (140x * chain mod)
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)
    - Chain 2x (120x * chain mod)
     
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    It's a finisher move, so not usable.

    So, with the stats postet by @Danziger, we have a 5-turn rotation with average damage of 18,6B. Tifa says hello, my review says hello.
     
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    Yeah, kinda didn't look right, thanks for pointing out.

    Looks nice :). With some STMRs like her own added to it, she will be at 20 billion without a problem i think? This would be my build. Could you be so kind to do the maths ? Pleeeeeeeaaaase :)

    [​IMG]
     
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