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New Arena Cancer

Discussion in 'Arena & Quests' started by PrezObama, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. PrezObama

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    I've run into this on a couple of 1.50 points multiplier teams this week and it's the first losses I've had in many many months.

    Essentially it's all physical CG units with LBs that chain perfectly. One was 3 CG Noctis and 2 CG Lightning. Another was 2 Lightning, 2 Firion and 1 AOK. If the spinner makes them go first, they all spark chain/cap their LBs and you die.

    In any case, they must be equipped with TDH and 100%+ accuracy because I had my Lenna equipped with 125% evade and she still died.

    I removed all my evade gear and put all my HP gear on Lenna to get her to over 23,000 HP so I should be able to survive the assault and raise my team. Assuming the chainers hit for about 2500 HP each and the 3 others are capping the chain for 3996 each you're looking at an HP requirement of 17,000 to survive.

    Having the AI auto-use their LB is one thing but having them programmed to be perfectly timed and spark chain is just stupid. You leave the opposing team with no choice but to use a cover tank and hope he covers a healer or have a stacked HP healer. Any other options are dead on the die roll.
     
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  2. Ashlag

    Ashlag Avoid political talk here, it's a landmine Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

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    It's not that new, but it's one of the many reasons not to bother too much if you don't find fun in arena. It's just an unsatisfying mess in term of gameplay.
     
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    Nothing 5 Lucas cant handle and counter to death.::ink::
     
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    Its no fun, and you can gear 5 units of your own for 20k HP, but then you become the troll yourself ::down:: It's all bad karma. But like Ashlag said, just don't care and let karma do its thing, as long as i/you/we finish in the top 3000 it's all good.

    (That or get 5 Lucasses offcourse. Liliths probably work, i sometimes use Estherses)
     
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    Why going over 100% o.o

    If I remember correctly on JP AI doesnt pick LB all the time anymore so let's hope for that soon on GL o/
     
  6. Ashlag

    Ashlag Avoid political talk here, it's a landmine Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

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    Actually to have a satisfying arena you'd need to either rework the whole system or rebalanced units with rebalanced stats/passives in arena. But that's really not gonna happen anyway.
     
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  7. PrezObama

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    I figured I'd try and see if extra evade countered opposing accuracy values. Like if their units had 75% accuracy and I have 125% evade does it net to dodging 50% of attacks.
     
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    You know, I was thinking about possible arena cancer teams and came up with this idea. I decided to keep my damn fool mouth shut rather than be responsible for an outbreak.
     
  9. Shr

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    It doesn't work like that :D

    These types of teams are a non issue as my normal arena team all units are close to 30k hp anyways as you don't really need high atk there.

    Then again I don't troll or create cancer teams anymore ::ink::
     
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    Make sure you’re in the top 30k, and throw all your matches. Just Menu > Give up, as soon as the spinner starts. Arena is a failed game mode.
     
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    I call this 50/50. First go wins. I tried 3 times, lost 2 out of 3 and started avoiding.
    Theres another one with nearly all CG units which I can survive and usually win.
     

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    I can confirm the 17k HP. I try to have decent health on at least my healer in the Arena, and she lost a bit less than 17k HP to the 2x Firion 2x Lightning AOK team whenever I went second.

    No losses though, if you have the HP these teams aren't very damgerous, LB never dual-wields, so they are basically locked into that one moveset and damage range even when going first.
     
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