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[NOT-A-GUIDE] Magical eHP on Evade Build Sieghard / Galuf / WoL

Discussion in 'Unit Builds' started by Haou, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. Haou

    Haou Ascended Member

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    DISCLAIMER (Please Read)
    - This is not a guide
    - This is not an all-purpose build that would be useful on any content/trial
    - This is just a sample, different gear selection might have a different result
    - This thread's main point is Magical eHP comparison, not an actual unit performance / capability / utility / etc



    GEARING RULE (On Sample Build)
    - No STMR
    - Time Limited Gear are included (Event Reward, Campaign Reward, etc)
    - 100% Physical Evade
    - 100% Draw Attack
    - 100% Ailment Resist
    - Rare Enhancement on Weapon
    - Unit's TMR included to activate Trust Ability
    - Elemental Resist are ignored
    - Stats Pot are included
    - Stats Door are not included
    - Unit's Ability Awakening are included (if available)
    - Unit's Latent Ability are included (if available)
    - Lakshmi Esper


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    Sieghard 7★
    Right hand: Summer Parasol MP+20%, ATK+15, MAG+58, SPR+120, SPR+40% (IW :SPR/MP +20%)
    Left hand: Cursed Shield (FFVI) DEF+70
    Head: Hairpin of Purity DEF+10, MAG+24, SPR+51
    Body: Assassin's Vest DEF+40, SPR+20
    Accessory 1: Moogle Charm (FFXV) DEF+33, SPR+28
    Accessory 2: Ring of the Lucii ATK+30%, MAG+3, MAG+30%, SPR+3
    Materia 1: Hero's Vow - Earth HP+30%, DEF+20%, SPR+20%
    Materia 2: Dodge Roll HP+30%, MP+30%
    Materia 3: True Spirit of Freedom ATK+20%
    Materia 4: Transcendent Soul SPR+25%
    Esper: Lakshmi HP+77, MP+66, ATK+41, DEF+46, MAG+44, SPR+72
    Total: HP:16765, MP:528, ATK:378, DEF:1106, MAG:370, SPR:1125



    Warrior of Dawn Galuf 7★
    Right hand: Galuf's Sword HP+40%, ATK+130, ATK+20%, DEF+30 (IW :HP/ATK +20%)
    Left hand: Cursed Shield (FFVI) DEF+70
    Head: Hairpin of Purity DEF+10, MAG+24, SPR+51
    Body: K Producer's Jacket DEF+7, SPR+3
    Accessory 1: Ring of the Lucii ATK+30%, MAG+3, MAG+30%, SPR+3
    Accessory 2: Ring of the Lucii ATK+30%, MAG+3, MAG+30%, SPR+3
    Materia 1: Dodge Roll HP+30%, MP+30%
    Materia 2: Light's Vengeance HP+40%, MAG+30%, SPR+30%
    Materia 3: Spiritual Defense HP+20%, DEF+20%, SPR+50%
    Materia 4: Hero's Vow - Light SPR+60%
    Esper: Lakshmi HP+77, MP+66, ATK+41, DEF+46, MAG+44, SPR+72
    Total: HP:20652, MP:624, ATK:890, DEF:1003, MAG:408, SPR:852



    Awakened Warrior of Light 7★
    Right hand: Sword of Light HP+40%, ATK+72, ATK+20%, DEF+46, DEF+20% (IW :HP/ATK +20%)
    Left hand: Cursed Shield (FFVI) DEF+70
    Head: Hairpin of Purity DEF+10, MAG+24, SPR+51
    Body: K Producer's Jacket DEF+7, SPR+3
    Accessory 1: Ring of the Lucii ATK+30%, MAG+3, MAG+30%, SPR+3
    Accessory 2: Ring of the Lucii ATK+30%, MAG+3, MAG+30%, SPR+3
    Materia 1: Dodge Roll HP+30%, MP+30%
    Materia 2: Transcendent Soul SPR+25%
    Materia 3: Light's Vengeance HP+40%, MAG+30%, SPR+30%
    Materia 4: Spiritual Defense HP+20%, DEF+20%, SPR+50%
    Esper: Lakshmi HP+77, MP+66, ATK+41, DEF+46, MAG+44, SPR+72
    Total: HP:19421, MP:800, ATK:487, DEF:1089, MAG:436, SPR:816
    18,860,625 on Sieghard
    17,595,504 on Warrior of Dawn Galuf
    15,847,536 on Awakened Warrior of Light


    REMINDER
    - Unit's value / performance / capability / utility / etc are not measured by Magical eHP alone
    - You have been warned
     
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  2. Skye

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    My Kryla has 15 468 990 meHP with her auto-provoke full evade build... With no enchantment on her weapon, and Lakshmi specced for the resistances, not the stat nodes. She is doored, though.

    I wonder if inherently magic tanks like Charlotte would fare better in this test?

    Would it make sense to allow the specific unit's STMR (only) for the build? Except for Galuf all tanks were single-banner, so a lot of people have these STMRs if they pulled for the unit.
     
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  3. Haou

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    The basic idea is about Physical Cover Tank with Evade Build, so they can withstand normal (no accuracy, not fixed type) physical attack for the team, and having decent Magical eHP to withstand the magic attack.

    When the idea is expanded, the possibility also expands...



    Using Evade Build on Mag Tank, like SS Charlotte could good on the right content...
    I used Evade Build Chow and SBB Ardyn... with full evade team... :)
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    Evade Draw Attack Build on Kryla is possible, and could be fun...

    My Kryla have Camouflage build (only 30%+50% though), with 100% Evade...
    I don't know whether ignore-provoke-ST-attack also ignore camouflage or not, so I add extra Camouflage on Kryla for a slightly better defensive prowess...
    I don't want Kryla to be KO'd, since she would lose her 75% Break...
     
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    I thought you went for provoke only, now I see you want physical AoE cover too, you're right there's no point in adding magic tanks then.
     
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    Nice post, thanks!

    I will also add - WoL is a side grade to Galuf if you got him. He is not the second coming if Jesus that you must pull 100% no questions asked.
     
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    We all know Sieghard is better statwise for M.EHP beforehand but as for damage dealers, stats are not anything. Zeno with 3200 atk is not better than a well built 2400 atk aldore king rain.
    Hell, I can even build a demon rain (with his stmr) with the same M.EHP as Sieghard but he brings nothing else.
     
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