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Poor Cloud but big hits?

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by happysavage, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. happysavage

    happysavage Ascended Member

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    I know it probably won't be enough to save him from the bench, but Cloud's LB is I believe a 32.5x mod now if I did the math right(12.5x with ignore 50% DEF, plus 30% LB damage). I know his LB is backloaded, but I don't know how much. Still, if it's like his 6* which was 30% backloaded we're probably looking at a 9.75x mod on the last hit which is solid. The rest would be 1.625x mods in that situation. If you weaved his chain into say Hyoh's LB he could get 5 hits chained with the final 4 being full chain mod. So that'd get you a full 14.625x mod chain capped. He's probably not really worth the trouble but if you can build a team around him(anybody know who has the longest chain frames in the game?) with good chainers and imperilers I could see him being pretty fun! Climhazzard is also an effective 16x mod so that's a pretty dang good spammable finishing move as well. Plus he can 250% attack buff himself for 4 turns. I've got him STMR ready anyway so I'll probably play around with him for a little while at least. Anybody else planning on trying him out?
     
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    Ye i only used him for ice bird, was planning to 7 star 2 of him and then eventualy fusing them for stmr, would like to see what damage 2 of them with lbs inside tornado chains could do but that means lvling the fodder clouds lb
     
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    Cloud's LB deal 30% of it's damage on the last hit, wich means the last hit has a 9.75x mod... wich is very weak to be honest considering that he can hit for 20x with doublecast climhazzard+2. (and even climhazzard+2 is not impressive)

    Nothing impressive to be honest.

    Cloud LB have a gap of 362 frames between the first and last hit, while a double cast tornado chain have 188 frames between the first and last hit. Even the two last hit have a 102 frames gap between them.
    To have cloud's last hit to fit into a tornado chaining, you could fit at most 5 hits of the combo (with one not even hitting at the chain cap)

    You are better of using climhazzard 2x
     
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    Another thing to consider is the cost of his LB. At 36 LS for capping a chain with 9-ish mod is beyond terrible, imo. There are many other LB finishers with much higher mod than that. (Jake's is 36x,one hit, iirc)
     
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    Il stil give him a go even though i have better physical and magical finishers but i always wanted to use him i wouldn't have raised the seconds lb anyway its just for lols, and for most content im sure he will do the job anyway i was expecting mine to be hitting higher atk though with my current gear bit disappointed with that considering my VoF can reach higher atk and has a 30x mod
     
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    Please let us know you opinion on him, if he surprises you. I'm sitting on three of him and I have no intention to level him up at the moment. :-P
     
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    Click bait*

    I read tits
     
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    I concur.
     
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    The last hit is so far away from the others that it’ll break the chain. Kind of hard to time it so the last “finisher” hit caps a secondary chain but it if possible.

    He’s not good. Finishers just aren’t optimal unless they have completely insane mods and/or ele damage with self imperils (i.e. Olive / Ang / Ignacio)
     

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