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PSA for those w/o Wilhelm: Marquis de Léon actually good for something (once in a while)

Discussion in 'Unit Reviews' started by Isaac, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. Isaac

    Isaac Well-Known Member

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    Well, if you are one of the sad lot that doesn't have Wilhelm (like me), and you need to use moogle plushie + yellow balloon + a unit with 50% innate draw attack during some trials to soak up st damage, like me, you probably use cagnazzo, snow, ozetta, or some other loser. (i am talking about situations where the st hit is mag or where the unit dies a lot and may not be able to use the golem draw attack skill, so evade is not good for that particular situation). They can guard each turn and will even do their job when you raise them up and they dont get a chance to use an ability because they don't need an ability to get the crap beat out of them with their 100% (or 95%) innate draw attacks. You guard and put a reraise on them, and maybe they will be about one quarter as good as the Wilhelm we don't have. #savingforsieghart

    This is required on several trials, including the Mad Doll trial (need draw attacks with high SPR) and even today's Hasiko challenge. In any event, the Mad Doll challenge needed some High spr draw attack action, and cagnazzo just sucked. I cursed the world for the lack of Wilhelms it gave me!

    Like everyone ever, I totally ignored Marquis de Léon becuase he just seemed to suck. And of course, he does suck. But, he has innate draw attacks and way more innate everything than Cagnazzy & Lacy, and he is a way better innate provoke tank for spr and probably def. Anyway, I usually hate PSAs because its some sh*t you already knew. That is probably the same here. Have a good day!
     
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    Take you like sir, I honestly never looked at his kit...

    Thanks for sharing this ::search::
     
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    Am gonna take a look. I was trying something (a challenge I can't recall right now) recently and was wondering about a different provoker ::up::
     
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    Thx for the heads up sir, I'll defo take an eyeball!
     
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    Forgot that ... I Used 6* Willie. Thx for the PSA.
     
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    I made a 7* out of him as soon as I could. I have no other 7* capable tank, so he got the call up.
    Not the best stats, but decent with a very solid kit for a freebie. Some breaks, draw attacks, good provoke, nice counters, chance to ignore fatal. Everything you could want in a draw tank.

    Love his sprite too.
     
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    I'm going to have to give my 7* Marquis a try against Hasiko. Tried using Barusa and just wasn't successful after 3 tries.

    Line up against Hasiko
    Barusa (w/ moogle plushie)
    Mystea (105% dark resist)
    MS Nichol (654 MP - mana battery)
    7* Orlandeau (1556 ATK - main dps)
    7* Marie (just experimenting w/ her buffs)
    + friend LM Fina or TT​
     
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    I used Leon for Hasiko as well. Worked great!
    Also, you're going to want a Mag/Atk breaker. It'll help tremendously in the fight
     
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    Her DEF is 10 time higher than her SPR. Take two magic chainers that chain together (like 2 tornado users, or two TTs). Could use hybrid too.
     
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    Awesome! Thanks for the heads up. I was going to use Snow against Hasiko, but I’ll check this dude out.
     
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    Thanks for the idea.
     
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    Leon is a perfectly good tank! I’ve used him to beat the Hyoh bonus stages, Estark, and Hisako. I’ll keep using him until he can no longer cut the mustard.
     
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    Finally beat him. Marquis took this guy like a champ. Took me several attempts and patience, but got it. 3/4 achievements, had to use an MP pot tho. ::down::

    Final lineup:
    Marquis de Leon, Mystea, MS Nichol, Ayeka, 7* Orlandeau: Friend: TT
     
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    Wow! nice! I am still not there yet. I accidentally sold my k jacket; Gumi send they will send back (should be on its way now), and then I can try. what were Mariqis, mystea, and nichol doing for each phase?
     
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    I don't think we actually need a Mag tank in Hisako.
    In my success attempt, the only tank I used is Marquis as innate-provoke tank to take the Berserk.
    Simply use buffer to buff and a good breaker to break Atk and Mag, and you will be fine.
    The only problem is MP drain at the beginning.
     
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    Oh, I thought you beat the doll one. That one SUX and is killing me.
     
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    Marquis basically just stood there and occasionally spammed Fiendish Fauna Fist and Fauna Fighting Spirit when he had the MP.
    Mystea just spammed Tritela Wall and Clear Veil (my friend borrow didn't have petrify defense). Somehow it feels like Mystea really did anything to contribute to this fight
    CG Nichol was my MP battery, occasionally used Soulful Stance.
     
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    I may have to agree that a MAG tank may not be neccessary. Didn't really feel like Mystea did any 'tanking'

    Surviving the MP drain is really what makes this fight
     
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    My experience in this fight is that if you have Ayaka or CG Fina, build them will SPR as high as possible to have some MP left after MP drain.
    then use them to restore MP.
    I used my friend Fina for this purpose, and to chain with my 2 VoL after that.
     
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    Good thing draw attacks already became popular.. I've been using it since the balloon's first release with barusa (first victim was Golem 3*).. It's funny because some people before say that 95% draw attacks are useless because you can simply just cast a provoke skill.. Now they now why it is so effective..
     
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