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Quick tips for Odin 3* and Phoenix 3* Esper

Discussion in 'Guides' started by Syuri, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. Syuri

    Syuri ♥ evade prince, kupo!! ♥ VIP Supporter

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    ::mog:: hello kupo..

    did you succeed to one or two turn KO the esper?
    because i cannot do it.. lulz
    so i go the hard way aka slow turtling battle

    hopefully this can give you some insight to the battle, don't be like me, go in blindly and got wiped in odin battle first try.. ::joy::
    NOTE : both esper is damage race type battle..

    Phoenix 3*
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    Mission :
    evoke shiva
    party of 5 or less
    defeat with magic

    General info :
    -300% ice and -300% wind weakness
    can ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR break
    Bird type -> bird killer can be craft and learn from tetra 2* esper
    Bird killer+ can be learn from tetra 3* esper

    Skillset :
    AOE fire magic + AOE magic non elemental + ST magic non elemental + ST physical
    no status ailment
    will full heal 100% after using preparing for reincarnation -> rebirth flame (looks like in 9 turns)

    Tips :
    • easy with aoe magic tank with 100% fire and provoke tank to eat other ST physical
    • for safety use reraise on magic tank since phoenix also spam non elemental magic
    • first turn fixed phoenix use AOE buff and 100% heal, so use this turn to prepare esper/break/buff/etc/etc instead of deal damage
    easy team comp :
    • aoe magic tank : mystea / a.rain / basch
    • provoke tank altogether with break : wilhelm / WOL
    • tornado chain will be preferable since phoenix weak to wind and you want to kill it with magic altoghether : barbie / D.Fina
    • support / reraise unit : Rem (also have tornado) and can insta full esper / LM fina / Ayaka
    my team is
    ayaka -> reraise basch + curaja
    basch 100% fire resist -> aoe cover + break ATK/MAG
    zargabaath provoke + buffer
    malphasie -> DEF/SPR break + tornado chain
    random D.Fina -> tornado chain

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    Odin 3*
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    mission :
    defeat less thna 15 turns
    evoke lakshmi
    Defeat with LB

    General info :
    only can DEF/SPR break
    -100% thunder weakness
    Human type -> man eater can be learn from diabolos 2*
    Man eater+ can be obtain from elnath trial and diabolos 3*

    Skillset:
    • ST and AOE physical , ST and AOE magic , AOE dispel , self buff
    • inflict blind/paralyze/disease/poison
    • each time you use physical atk, it will counter with ST physical
    • each time you use magic (i test it, it including curaja / raise / dispelga / any magic), it will counter with ST magic
    • both counter cannot be provoke, but can be cover with AOE cover
      • if you use 2 x physical atk and 2x magic, odin will counter with 2x ST physical atk and 2x ST magic
    • you need to carefull see if odin use sangetall or summon einherjar at the end of his turn..
      • sangetall is aoe dispel to your team -> so you need to recast all the buff
      • if odin use summon einherjar, then next turn he will use einherjar which AOE magic damage
    • 100% - 70% :
      • every 4 turn odin buff
      • every 4 turn odin use sangetall in the end of his turn
      • every 3 turn he will use summon einherjar in the end of this turn -> next turn he use AOE magic einherjar
      • every turn he rotate using AOE physical (Geirrothr) or AOE magic (Obliteration).. SO it is possible that you will face 2 AOE magic in 1 turn
      • every turn will be ST magic and ST physical atk
    • 70% - 40% :
      • every 3 turn odin buff
      • every 2 turn odin will use sangetall and summon einherjar in the end of his turn -> means he AOE dispel your team and will use AOE magic next turn (einherjar)
      • every turn will use AOE physical (Geirrothr) AND AOE magic (Obliteration)
      • so every 2 turn you will face with 2x AOE magic
    • at 40% threshold he will use AOE dispel and normal pattern atk -> your team may be wipe since your tank will lose its cover/provoke ability
      • next turn will prepare for zantetsuken which he will mitigate damage and after 4 turn he will use insta AOE KO (100%)
      • it will be better if you can chip his HP more than 40% to avoid this threshold
    Tips :
    • if you go slow route -> no 1 or 2 turn KO, i recommend go for physical route and use aoe physical tank to cover the counter
    • bring healer with skill ability
    • bring provoke tank to eat ST magic damage
    • have a way to fulfill your esper gauge
    • bring support/breaker/dispel unit without magic
    my team is :
    rem -> aoe reraise and instant esper and healing skill
    ayaka -> dedication
    zargabaath -> provoke and buffer
    basch -> aoe physical tank and breaker
    hyoh x2 with lightning elemental -> DD and dispel skill unit

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    thanks @danacol for your perfect hyoh

    do not take odin lightly and be like me..
    i tried to 2 or 3 turn KO him using
    rem, nyx, malphasie, basch, 2x hyoh..
    end up not pretty eh..
    Screenshot_20181025-221616_FFEXVIUS-540x960.jpg

    Hope this help
    Good luck folks
    get your reraise esper and insta KO (60%) esper for arena...

    like usual,
    if you spot mistake, do let me know so i can fix it
    if you want to add another pointer/hint feel free to comment
    if you want to add your team and strategies -> totally welcome
    if you want to ask about your team comp / boss -> feel free to comment, i'll try my best to answer

    cheers,
    kupo ::mog::
     
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  2. god.nomad

    god.nomad Ascended Member

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    Thankful like always for your hints.
    Odin down. Already spoiled from JaganX and done via phy route with full evade manly.Ramza.
    His aoe instakill works despite genji and safety.
    Not sure why he used aoe death in first try and in second not.

    Anima down both difficulties in first try.
    Chained to death with two spark Hyohs both diff otko.
    Seems squishy.

    Got heavy beating from Phonix.
    It looked so easy when Jagan did it.
    He said that one Dorkulas is enough to kill Phonix alone.
    I thought that two Fry would do beautifully.
    Did only about 30% dmg if i am not mistaken instead of 100% like hoped.
    Since no otko, manly.Ramza performed crappy since died and cant recast mag cover lol.
    Afterwards wiping event with two massreraise before finally all units laid them lazily down and spread legs.

    Happy hyohing and wiping eo.
     
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    That wasn't so bad. ::=3:: Now, back to dealing with Life and scratch my head dealing with Odin...

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    Hmmmmmm...... copying the team....
    Awkward Rain, Lexa, Lexa, HoT Lid, Ayaka and .... no place for MiSs Nichole. ::rudecat4::
     
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    I don't have time at the moment to write down what I did, but Meliadoul was double as breaker/provoke tank. Mystea doubled as buffer(dmg mitigation) and mag AoE cover tank. I didn't need stats buffer. Shiva was with Shantotto. Lexa has 3*Tetra with both killers unlocked, Barb's TMR, and Necropolis (don't remember where I got it). She has a total of 155% M Bird killer.
     
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  6. Syuri

    Syuri ♥ evade prince, kupo!! ♥ VIP Supporter

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    a. rain has 60% buff
    or bring other barbie companion instead lexa for more damage
    or bring WOL instead HT lid for provoke and breaker

    thanks for sharing.. ::up::
    i should quit writing quick tips with my team.. :cool:
     
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    Noooooooo! Please don't stop. More options/examples is always better. That team of mine also relies on RNG a bit. I need to get Mystea's LB up on turn two (DC Tornado + Eccentric).
     
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    Or using onion knight oso an option for Phoenix and definitely Odin is a pain in the ass need Hyoh with killer and protection. Oh boy !
     
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    pretty easy, 1st try
     
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    Two Reberta’s Doing their timed dives with buffs practically Annihilated Odin in two turns. My Reberta was level 115 with okay gear & diablos, my friend had great geared one with Diablos.

    Phoenix was fairly basic to what we’ve dealt with in other Esper battles. Wasn’t really ever in danger on that one.
     
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    Actually i didnt have trouble hanging in with phoenix...the aoe non elemental is a bitch, tho.
    If ypu dispel and break every turn, its all good.
    Rem reraise and spr break wprks well with ramza def/ark brk.
    A rain as buffer/fire resist/mag tank.
     
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    I ended up beating Phoenix with:
    Cerius (for the 100% fire resistance + mitigation with Cradle of Horns),
    Wilhelm (for provoking),
    Ayaka (for Ayaka things ;)),
    CG Lid (breaking with her lb + damage mitigation with Cowered Courage)
    7* Trance Terra (all she did was dual-cast Blizzaja)
    Completed all but the esper mission in 8 turns.
    ::up::
     
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    Continiously wiping at phoenix.
    Tried different routes but game cheats me dead either way.
    Last try was with full evade m.Ramza with ifrit plus fire shield.
    Rinoa for breaking and tornado.
    Brat Rydia for evo and tornado.
    Ayaka for heal reraise and buffs.
    And finaly Cerius for 100% fire res.
    Despite fire buff, party gets wiped from fire burns or something.
    Should be fire aoe skill where i should have at least the 100% from buff with ifrit and phoenix buff.
    Aditionally rainbow robe and other res gear equipped.
    Obviously there is some sort of ganking/troll code in there.
    Rydia goes instadead despite cover and buffs.
     
  14. Syuri

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    ^ Phoenix not only use fire damage.. it also use AOE non elemental magic which will bypass your fire resistance and kill your team

    Swap cerius for dedicated magic tank -
    basch / mystea / a.rain / lilith / shylt
    Then reraise your magic tank using ayaka
    100% fire should be easily achievalbe - phoenix esper and flame armor/ flame shield/cat ear hood/fire res materia

    And use your m.ramza 100% evade for provoke
    Rinoa with atk/mag break and chain tornado

    Do not use m.ramza for aoe magic because his aoe magic cover locked behind CD, if he dead and being reraise, he can't use it instantly
     
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    Phoenix was easy. 1) everyone with 30% fire resist.
    (Edit: it was not Lid, it was Ramza)
    Dark Fina (70% fire resist skill and tornado chaining)
    mRamza: high def and spr for tanking ST and magic. Used Entrust every 3 turns for Lid.
    Yuna was in charge of summoning and healing (not really necessary)
    Friend Barbariccia doing Barbie stuff.
     
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    Odin was hard and it required luck!
    CG Lid used Super invention in the first turn. I got lucky to unlock that 30% mitigation skill. After that, used her LB quite often.
    Rosa used Bless and healed.
    Yuna summoning.
    Evade mRamza doing his thing with provoke, cover and entrusting Lid
    Double Tonitrus Hyoh doing the wrecking.
    Luck was needed to unlock the 30% mtg buff twice in the same battle (used super invention every odd turn), to have no one dying in the first turn when only the aoe cover was up, to get some good counter Lb filling and to be able to chain properly near the end, when my Hyoh used triple and the other used double (I started with the imperil)!
     
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    Update: I went back in to fight Phoenix to complete the 'summon Shiva' mission. Since I had already completed it, I went in with a 6-unit team.
    A.Rain for magical cover
    Ayaka for dispel, healing and her barriers cause, why not ::up::
    CG Lid for breaking, Eccentric (with Rikku's Pouch) and physical mitigation with Cowered Courage
    Cerius for fire resistance and that's it lol
    Trance Terra for DC Blizzaja
    and 7* Rem! for her turn 1 auto-reraise and dc tornado. I could have used her to fill the esper guage in 1 turn but with the tornado, I got enough esper orbs normally.

    This fight went much smoother than the first time (but the extra unit helps haha) I just made sure that fire resistance and mitigation was up all the time and made sure to dispel Phoenix whenever it buffed itself. I think Rain died once but he had reraise so it wasn't a problem.
     
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    I took Phoenix down pretty easily. 100% fire Basch, Garnet, PS Rydia, Rem and HT Lid. Basch tank, HT Lid break, Garnet build esper gauge/heal, PSR & Rem tornado chain. When esper gauge was full, DC tornado and ask Shiva to come hang out. Dead.

    Odin kicked my ass. I used evade Basch, Nyx, Vik, Rena and Hyoh. I don't have Tonitrus so I had to go with fire. Got down to about 80%, Nyx filled my LBs, Hyohs chain LB and Odin went down to about 60%. Then proceeded to wrap my ass in a pretty gift bow, place it on a silver platter and wiped me.

    Next time I'll try to go low and slow like Syuri
     
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    I used my Merc Ramza as an aoe magic tank and it worked for me.
    Fire resistance only from equipping Phoenix, Dragon Helm and Dragon Mail. Else Japa Mala and go for DEF/SPR/HP. Equipping Mechanical Heart helps him to heal by himself. Turn 1 CD aoe mag cover, 2 provoke, 3 defend.
    My team was CG Lid, Merc Ramza, Eiko for filling the esper gauge, Fryevia and Hyoh.
    CG Lid ATK/MAG break on turn 1, 60% ATK break on turn 2, 60% MAG on turn 3. That should help Merc Ramza eat all the attacks.
    As for damage, just use Frost Flower Blitz for imperil first (so next you will gain more damage right from the start of your chaining) and another multiple hits attack for gaining the LB crystals for CG Lid. I used Hyoh's Ruthless Blade for that. Hyoh has a backload damage with his Serpent of the Blade so definitely better than another Fry.
    If you want me to set an ice weapon Hyoh just let me know. I'll remove an inactive friend and add you.

    For Odin my team was Olive, Merc Ramza, Ayaka, Ace, Hyoh and Hyoh friend. By the time the Olive's LB about to full, cast her 100% imperil CD and also Hyoh's CD. And next turn T-Serpent of the Blade chaining and her LB as a finisher should do the job.
     
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    I have odin figured out, if i can do enough dmg. Just need right friend to show up on my fl.
    Edit:
    Well...i thought i did. I just got wiped at 49%..dunno why.
     
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