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Rena or Elly STMR(?)

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by rtt, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. rtt

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    have both at 7* deciding on whom to use ticket

    Rena’s for sure
    Elly am assuming the prism will come sooner or later
     
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    Well that's a good one. Both STMRs are pretty great. I'd say the 240% resistance on Elly's might push it to be slightly ahead... Then again, the Shortcake is also quite good, I kept moving it around all the time when I got it. Not so much anymore as I have Aerith's, Shera's STMR and some others. But it's still good.
     
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    I have both and use both... I guess that's not that helpful of a comment though is it? lol
     
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    I would go Elly, 60% resists are very rare and make your mage a lot less squishy. Plus it is absolutely BiS for her so she wont need an extra turn/outside imbue for her LB (most builds avoid her rod due to its low stats). There are many sources of Ribbon on the game currently, but only a handful of 60%+ resist materias and they are ALL STMRs.

    Doctor Aiden TMR, LM Fina TMR are a decent trade off for resists for any mage, support, or healer, but Elly STMR will be a staple on your mage.

    Edit, I originally put Rena by mistake, sorry for the confusion. I meant Elly my bad I been drankin.....
     
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    i'd go rena just for fact its 100% guaranteed.

    elly's prism may never end up on shop or if it does could be so late that powercreep tmr's match her stmr.
     
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    Elly's STMR is the one with 60% resists.
     
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    This. There's no guarantee that Elly's prism will be added, so you may end up having to use an omni in order to get her STMR. The safest bet is Rena. You can always use an STMR moogle on Elly if you really want that one too.
     
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    high earth resist gears are very rare, especially materia
     
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    how often do you need it?
    and buffs can usually cover it (is there any earth preemptive fight?)
     
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    I would Say Elly's, because DV. (she's so good in here) Rena's is also very good, but you have other similar options.
     
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    Neither rena stmr isnt special in todays meta with alternatives like aiden coat cg heal fina tmr anti disaster chocobo fina tmr ribbon etc... Hell the current exploration gives a ribbon materia. On the other hand ellys prism isnt guaranteed to appear in the trust coin shop and she really doesnt need her tmr or stmr as long as you have outside imbue for her. I vote a use it on a different unit.
     
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    Element resist is always good especially with dv preemptive on stage two.
     
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    If you were to get either now, I would say Elly.
    She needs her STMR so she can skip her garbage TMR while being able to CD + CD + imbue turn 1.

    But, for the future? By the time it finally arrive, Elly using her STMR will not be a big deal anymore. Better get Rena's so you can use it on herself, as she is currently the best healer. And unless some GLEX surprise, she will be the best for very long (JP doesn't have a healer as good as Rena now)
     
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    Rena is best healer now? Haven’t used one of those in awhile lol :-P

    Well disappointed elly prism wasn’t added yet

    How would elly compare to current jp meta? For mileage consideration
     
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    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...TBTom7n_NHGTuLK7EOr2r94v5o/edit#gid=545076907

    a top tier gear (full stmr/limited/whatever) chart.

    elly cant get past 35B


    a budget gear:

    rem has like 40B. (w/o any gl buffs)

    baha df is around 70B (w/o any gl buffs)

    Kuja is 100B. (w/o any gl buffs..if we get him since he wasnt 7* in gl)

    and NV aerith beats all of em at +2 i think someone said.



    (going off charts so could be wrong but the power spike coming up is real)
     
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    Looking strictly at DV, Elly performs pretty well for some time.

    Even when Ace and Rem arrives, at last in terms of burst, she is not that far behind.

    Both Bahamut Dark Fina and Kuja can ST CWA, the only real issue with them is finding another ST q-cast CWA with matching elements. Fina is Dark, Earth and Wind, Kuja is Fire and Light. They can still be used for t-cast and deals very strong damage though (Kuja can burst 213x with t-cast)
     
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    I addressed it an edited my post. Alcohol is the devil sometimes...
     
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    Sometimes?
     
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    my thing is not avg damage, but BURST damage. Elly with LB gear and killers gets pretty damn high. Elly burst is really damn high, and with outside imbue/imperil is ready by turn 2. That is her real gift for DV.

    Burst damage is why Noel is so coveted in DV and better than most other chainers. In TMR gear his burst is over 110B (no other tmr build even close to his). That is just nuts.
     
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    Thanks all for the input.

    Logically should be Rena ‘sure thing’. Now I have aerith stm and Luna tmr on xwql otherwise may have been easier call since clearly sentimentally leaning towards Elly.

    Without STMR I guess Elly lost more potency than does Rena is fair to say?
     

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