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Rivera as dps?

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  1. Luffy

    Luffy "Hall of Fame" Member

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    I got 4 Riveras, so I can make 2 7*, then can either keep them for chaining together or get their STMR. If her STMR were good I would have gone that route without any thought, but her STMR is super niche and have tmr stats.

    Now the question is are they suitable as dps? Can they reach that max mod? IS the mod shared among all abilities, or each has its own counter? Anything besides death can reset her mod increase?

    I know she is locked to light, but my best mag dbs right now is cg sakura. I have A.I katy as well, but can't find the numbers for her as mag dps (using triple dark magic).
    Thoughts?
     
  2. Ashlag

    Ashlag Not a ghost anymore. But spooky asf. Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

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    Just don't ? Using a proper DPS will have infinitely better results.
     
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    Wicked Moon has made me realize that Elena is my magic DPS. Screw mages. As for me, somehow, I got 4 riveras without trying as an F2P. I couldnt understand his damage skills and just got the STMR alread. Could be good for my aloha lasswell if I ever need an evade DPS. he has serious MP guzzling issues. Kryla too. It is really nice to have, even if I don't need it this moment.
     
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    I was going to say just about the same thing. ::up::

    BSSakura should be way more powerful than Rivera. But even she has been power-crept by a lot.
     
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    Thoughts: no
     
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    I put Three Stars (Trance Terra's STMR) on my Kryla.
     
  7. Ashlag

    Ashlag Not a ghost anymore. But spooky asf. Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

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    I put nothing special on my Kryla. Her 1k+ MP are enough to last even when using that 410 MP move with little help from the other guys.
     
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    I didn't even know she could do any DPS. But i could build her for about 2400 MP and her best modifier is 5x. BS chains on a doublecast or tripplecast burst . I really think she is supposed to use those as support chains, if at all. But the burst would indeed still do some damage. But compared to Reberta having a 6x modifier with a 6x chain cap and much higher ATK stat. Or compared to Circe doing a quadcast with 12x modifiers with also a slightly higher MAG stat. Both Reberta and Circe also have imperils to add to the damage.

    I did notice her LB gives a AoE 50% LB boost to other units. Amongst other reasons bring her for that and use her LB to increase Esthers LB damage. (She might actually be worth a UoC for me personally ::nerd::)

    Edit: Ah i missed the "multiplied by 1.25x" part, that would translate to 3000 MP, not bad. Still won't beat most proper DPS units. And i don't think you can build 2 Riveras with that high MP stats.

    Edit2: Lolz i just realized with stat doors things, you could reach even higher MP stat. 2.705 MP on my build, translates into 3.381 MP. Still low modifier but maybe on the burst turns... Would be great fun to try out on the next defeat-boss-again-with-25-different-units boss.
     
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    Ah, you must have better gear than me ;):-P
     
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    Oh yeah? Well I got 5 Riveras. So take that.

    In all seriousness, though, I made the STMR for my Kryla. Because 410 MP for one skill is a chunk of change.

    Also when I feel like derping around, I turn Kryla into my phys Dodge Provoke Tank/Cover Tank / Breaker / Imperiler with Rivera. It works pretty well. Then, Kryla, Rivera, Grim Lord Sakura, Randi, and Esther can all chain Bolting Strike Frames!
     
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    Thanks for all your input::up::
    think I will get the STMR, but don't have enough gil to awaken 2nd one to 7* atm (for future 7* counter quest).
    Any idea how good A.I katy as black mage?
     
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    If you intend to use magic, mediocre, if you use her CW magical move, more than correct.
     
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    I think her abilities are all are physical attacks with magic damage, that wouldn't work on physical immune bosses like blood moon but will work on mag immune ones. Her spells are magic attacks so that will work when her abilities will not.
     
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    Sound and look like a she to me::thonk::
     
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    I was under the impression Rivera was a girl. Mostly based on the long pink hair.

    I haven't tried it yet, but she has Chaos Wave and Bolting Strike frames, that match Grim Lord Sakura.

    A.I. Katy 7★
    Right hand: Reaver HP+666, MP+66, ATK+33, MAG+130, MAG+30%, SPR+36
    Head: Magic Circlet DEF+40, MAG+52
    Body: Golbez's Armor DEF+45, MAG+100
    Accessory 1: Upgrade Package ATK+40, ATK+40%, MAG+40
    Accessory 2: Nutkin Hairpin MAG+40, MAG+40%
    Materia 1: Heart Bound by Hatred MAG+40%
    Materia 2: Magic Charger
    Materia 3: Channel Anger MAG+40%
    Materia 4: Adventurer V ATK+40%, DEF+40%, MAG+40%, SPR+40%
    Esper: Leviathan HP+116, MP+82, ATK+75, DEF+76, MAG+102, SPR+73
    Total: HP:8482, MP:638, ATK:869, DEF:711, MAG:2525, SPR:527

    This probably isn't an optimal build, but I could build this (if I dropped Moogles on Magic Circlet and Channel Anger). Add IW enhancements. She's pretty squishy

    The Dual Wield MAG with a Whip and Rod is less, (like 2100s), but you can get her HP higher. There aren't very many MAG DW items currently.
     
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    Yeah, but as she has flood equivalents and -ja spells at best, this isn't gonna cut it for hard content like the moon 2.0.
     
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    Well her CW move is a physical attack scaling from magic, so no good for blood moon. Her SR move is physical scaling off physical (also no good) and her BS move is hybrid, so the moon would be immune when it’s mitigation is up, but these AOE BS frames could be usable for taking down the moon much like Elena, though not as easy since you’d need to imbue/imperil from an outside source or spark chain non-elemental and lose significant damage. Still probably doable, but certainly a challenge and you’d most likely need to stat pot her out to get tanky enough SPR for the job.
     
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    I just don’t think there’s any question here (unlike some others... qin)

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    Don’t forget about the gil map for King Mog’s expeditions. Those maps have come in real handy lately for me when I needed to awaken my units to 7*.
     
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