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Should pull? CG Nichol

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by riquemg, Jun 13, 2018.

You intend to pull the CG Nichol banner?

  1. Yes, he's the best and I will do everything to get him

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  2. Yes, but I will spend only some resources

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  3. No, because I already have a good supporters

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  4. No, he is just a hyped unit

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  1. riquemg

    riquemg "Hall of Fame" Member Supporter

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    Discussion to help anyone who is in doubt
     
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    CG Nichol is a monster in term of support. But, manage your lapis since we will have anniversary this month too. So, I vote no. 2
     
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    So what happens if you use those 2 buffs together:
    6[​IMG] 69 [​IMG] Courageous Stance Increase ATK/MAG (130%) for 2 turns to all allies
    Decrease DEF/SPR (65%) for 2 turns to all allies
    Refresh (120 MP) split over 2 turns to all allies - 50
    6[​IMG] 69 [​IMG] Fortune Stance Increase DEF/SPR (130%) for 2 turns to all allies
    Decrease ATK/MAG (65%) for 2 turns to all allies
    Heal (4000 HP, 10x) split over 2 turns to all allies - 50

    Do you get 130% everywhere or does it still subtract the values?
     
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    Buffs and breaks are seperate. You would get it all.
    What your effective buff would be I will leave to somebody that likes math to figure out.
     
  5. Masvroh

    Masvroh Ascended Member

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    You get all stats buffs and debuffs too, LOL. Those two moves are amazing IF you have a unit who has aoe break resist. Yan and EV are the prime example.
     
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    Right forgot that those decreases are basically breaks xd

    So it must be 130% on all stats, but -65% breaks on your team as well at once. So those skills you should use on beware.

    I think i try him(if i ever get him) with Earth Veritas in a team.


    Just an interesting thought...
    Turn 1 dual casting 30% aoe mitigation + Soulful Stance (CGNichol) and Primal Instinct 30% phys aoe mitigation stacking(Earth Veritas).

    Turn 2 Golem + Iris Provoke - because Earth Veritas Provoke lasts only 2 turns - or phys covertank(Earth Veritas) and whatever skill you need with CGNichol.

    Turn 3 you can start using aoe break resist on Earth Veritas and dual casting Courageous and Fortune Stance with CGNichol. Then just repeat this rotation and meanwhile you can use Earth Veritas maxed LB to get 54% general mitigaion.
     
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    Nice. Time to consider potting Yan. :D

    Besides. Other two 4* looks very promising.
    I really hope to pull the mage with 4* tic.
     
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    Anyway... the only way i will use CGNichol is either if he can completely replace CGFina or my tank - or as a friend unit.

    Else i will lose important roles and options in my setup and it wouldn´t make sense anymore.

    I mean... the question is are 30% mitigation(+30% phys mitigation stacking) + 110-130% stat buffs enough to be able to pass on a tank or healer? I´m not sure.

    And if i pass on a tank(Earth Veritas in this case) i can´t resist the breaks from CG Nichol and i have to use the 110% stat buffs. Also no covertanks possible, provoke can be put on any unit anyway.


    Currently i am using 2 dps - BSS - Fohlen/WoL - CGFina and i´m not really sure how CGNichol fits in there, except as friend unit.


    Well, okay... another usage of him could be on a solo dps setup(Blossom Sage Sakura/Emperor) where you build support around your single dps unit.
     
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    Most of people has only 1 DPS and another DPS from friend's slot. You can swap one of your DPS with him. Furthermore, your team lacks buffer so having CG Nichol as buffer doesn't hurt.

    Stacking mitigation is strong. I've tested it and combined with breaks make damages look like a joke. Especially for tanks.
     
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    I would imagine if I cast yans or grim lords aoe break resist move first, you’d only get the buffs
     
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    I'm really nopt shure if i wanna pull...

    i have Noctis anbd Soleil with full enhancements and buffs... besides Zarg enhancements are comming. after i spent 30k lapis on the cloud banner i dont wanna waste much.

    some advice would be nice since nichol is hyped
     
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    I'd remind pple that Zarga's enh are on the way, and they could very well trivialize the need for Glasses Boy.
     
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    Well the thing about CGNichol is you can dual cast 30% aoe mitigation + all stat buffs and his max buffs are 130%(non-lb). If you don´t need that he is as useful as any other buffer like Roy for you.

    Also he isn´t locked on his buffs.

    In case you are using such as Soleil and Yan(both at once) anyway, CG Nichol is basically not needed. He might do some stuff of both units but doesn´t have imperil and breaks like Yan or Soleil.

    So CGNichol is great, but yet far from perfect. He is a either a great unit for beginners or for those who always seek for highest stat buffers.
     
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    @Masvroh:
    That´s no option for me, it´s hard to find friend units for my chainers to regulary use them. Sure a buffer would fit perfect to my setup, but only when i´m not losing the other units i already use so the best option for me is using CGNichol as friend unit. But for the future i will pull for him, just with random tickets and some dailys though.

    Yep, mitigation stacking is strong but for some bosses like Aranea back then you really need highest mitigation stacking PLUS def/spr buffs and a really op tank.
     
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    Or they just like ladybois.
     
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    As a f2p (though actually pretty tempted as first) i will probably not doing any pull on this banner.Just want to remind you all that the Anniversary is just around the corner and they will most likely come up with another surprise.Also i'm actually pretty content with my eLunera even though on 10man trial she is a pain in the ass.
     
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    Support units are very rare to find as friend unit. Most people put up a chainer, a tank, or a cheese unit as a leader. Though, if you already beaten hard contents with your team, you are good even without a support.

    That would mean my WoL was op! WoL had around 9K HP and around 600 DEF...
     
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    The new 4 star magic tank can do the same
     
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    CG Nichol will probably be 85%+ of time benched but there where needed, he will probably shine like sun.
    If you have other good buffer like Soleil, you will do great without him.
    I for my part will do some pulls including the new tic and stop then.
    I would also hope to get the new mag girl while pulling to have tornado chain with Rydia.
    But lapis will be further hoarded or perhaps i will do some few half pulls.

    If someone is still not sure what to do, look the links in my signature for evillaughter01.
    He did a video about Nic.
     

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