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Some Hyoh questions

Discussion in 'General' started by Kuuro, Sep 14, 2018.

  1. Kuuro

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    Not tryna flex or anything but i pulled 2x Hyoh’s in 30 tickets. I also did the first 4 steps of his step up and got nothing. Should i do the last step even if i already have him 7* stared? Also is it worth getting him to level 120? Or would it be fine just to leave him at 110?

    EDIT: I did the 11k step up FIRST before pulling with tickets
     
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    You got 2 Hyoh from 30 tickets, and after that you did 4 steps? Why? If you wanted to get the stmr then dont stop there, do the last step, but imho the stmr doesnt worth 11k lapis so you shouldnt have done the step up in the first place. Hyoh is worth pumping up to level 120 but I think the better strategy is no hurry, I make him level 115 then work up slowly in raids with xp equipment.
     
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    i would do it, maybe you'll grab rain instead
     
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    Just to add:

    Damage wise revolving saw outdoes his STMR, BUT his STMR is pretty well BiS for a DW unit wanting a NE greatsword.
     
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    Just saw you Hyoh on my list. The first this to do should be to give him Crimson Saber or another fire/thunder elemental GS. ;)

    As for the last step: Do you have a 6* Mag tank? It is worth to go for the last step to get A.Rain if you don't have any mag tanks or just a single A. Rain to get him to 7*.
     
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    Wait, srsly? Can you mathematically confirm this?

    But, like, Flame Blade Agni or Tonitrus are better, right?
     
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    Depends if one has an imbue.

    The math is easy, you land at ~2300 atk with Revolving say, add 240 onto that for his STMR

    2300 vs 2540 - math time.

    2300 atk: 5,290,000 atk*atk * 1.3 = 6,877,000 base modifier
    2540 atk: 6,451,600 atk*atk * 1.0 = 6,451,600 base modifier

    The powah of TDH.

    edit:
    Desch is the only obtainable lightning imbue at the moment(anyone can clarify?). We get more fire imbues in the future.
     
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    I guess i worded that wrong, i did the step ups first.
     
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    Well...some suggestions already mentioned above so...i will answer your last question, don't leave any 7* unit at any level...Hyoh will get this passive :
    Level 120 Unrivaled talent
    Effect : Increase modifier (0.5x) to Servant of the Blade
    Increase ATK (30%) when equipped with a great sword
    Leveling unit is important, to increase stats and gain their final ability(passive or active).
     
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    Wouldn’t the revolver i have on be a better suit for him since i have buster style? And i was talking about his own step up, not the one with rain on it, unless rain is featured on that one too? As for a MAG tank i only Mystea and Shylt.

    Edit: im too broke for the other step up
     
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    While new skills are few and far between at 7* - the lvl120 abilities are what seem to drive most 7* units into the batshit insane category.
     
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    Buster Style works with Crimson Saber(1h) and Revolver(2h) - the thing is to add to the above:

    His fire Imperil will give his attacks a 1.6x mod, Revolver (Unless you have a lightning or thunder imbue) will get a 1.3x mod, but miss out on the additional 1.6x mod - if you have Desch leveled/encnanted you can imbue and utilize that additional modifier.
     
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    Damn. I stacked a bunch of defensive stats onto my Crimson Saber compared to my Revolver which has 27% atk on it
     
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    You didn't say which step up you did, I guess you did the 11k.

    May as well go for the last step if you already did 4, the last step has the best rates.

    If you went 4 steps on 25k step up, I doubt you'd even ask the question in the first place.
     
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    Long term that is a better strategy - Crimson Saber on A. Rain with 20-30% HP/Spr/whatever is beastly for his overall stats.
     
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    My bad on that one, but is it worth the 5k? Since his STMR isn’t that great
     
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    I think he is talking about the 50/50 for A. Rain.

    Don't think there are many chances someone will say "Spend 5k Lapis, have a 50/50 chance at getting A. Rain"

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    You are on step 4 now right? Going to the final step 5?
     
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    But for Hyoh would it be better to swap it out? On my crimson saber i have 10% HP,DEF and SPR ::rudecat10::
     
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    I would, you then get out of the box elemental chaining with every other Hyoh - most seem to be using Agni atm.

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    GIVE'ERRR!!

    We should be getting 8-11k Lapis between now and the end of the banner.
     
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