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Tifa is a good mage for DV

Discussion in 'General' started by daima, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. daima

    daima "Hall of Fame" Member

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    We all know on DV that boss got 10 times more def than spirit for magic stages.

    But what if we had stupid units now that deal around 10 times more damage with physical attack than most of magical attacker ?

    According to that : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Lpvq7qUKdTnd-mgoXYifCeo34/edit#gid=1223124122

    Tifa burst at 780m, so 78m on magical stages.
    Rem burst at 80m with a full LB build, better than the chaining build.
    Ace is worse than Tifa on magical stages...

    Yup that's what NV does. Thanks for unnerfed Tifa. And there are still some people that thinks it's a good idea.
    [​IMG]

    P.S: F### you alim.
     
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    Jonodiaz Ascended Member

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    Well that is intersting... feels like DV will be decided by Supporter Units or basically by MMXon. To be honest I am kind of disappointed that Zenaida didn't even get 1 DV to Shine as the Top Damage Dealer... Well at least I can Use Kuja for Fire/Light stages or will Tifa finishing deal more Damage than Kuja chaining with a non Dupe?
     
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  3. Arnatuile

    Arnatuile "Let us not speak of them, but look, and pass." Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

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    You should really check the build of that Tifa...
     
  4. victor sant

    victor sant "Hall of Fame" Member Supporter

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    The NV powerspike is step, and Alim being Alim releasing mages at turtle speed.

    Mages with NV are:

    NV Sol (Ice/Dark)
    NV Physalis (Ice/Wind/Water)
    NV Aerith (Light)
    Emperor (Fire)
    Foltra (Light)
    BS Sakura (Thunder)
    Dark Fina (Wind/Earth)

    So mage tifa will shine for a pretty long time unless we have GLEX surprises.
     
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    Ok that explains a lot. That Build seems to be BIS. 300%LB Damage with 4K Attack. But she will probably still outshine most Mages.
     
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  6. daima

    daima "Hall of Fame" Member

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    MMXon gonna be totally uocable, unit + prism, after the next maintenance.

    Kuja gonna do two times more damage than Tifa but Tifa is not a mage and Kuja is two weeks old...

    Next DV gonna be like the last one. A shitty one. Everybody gonna cap without trying much on every stage except the two last ones.

    @Arnatuile, @Jonodiaz : yeah i compare BIS on JP. Our Tifa gonna be a bit less strong (until NV Edel STMR for whales) There is no point to compare crappy build to crappy build for DV events.
     
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    Isaac "Hall of Fame" Member

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    The fist won’t be available so we gonna need an equip sword materia and a 50% lb sword up in her slot to get to 300%
     
  8. SlightlyDubious

    SlightlyDubious A Wild Dubs Appears! Spooky Chocobro Valkyrie Æsir VIP Supporter

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    I was thinking about this earlier. I could have sworn that there was actual gear/other materia aside from the bare bones "Equip ____" that would grant units access to more weapons but I haven't been able to find it. Ffbe builder hasn't helped either. Anyone know if I'm just imagining this?
     
  9. daima

    daima "Hall of Fame" Member

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    There is upgrade package for whips and rods and jiraya TMR for katana. Not likes it helps tifa much.

    Keyword on FFBEEquip is "allow use of"
     
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    Aha! Thank you. I kept trying different search terms but they would all just give me "attack bonus when equipped with ______" instead. ::rudecat11::
     
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    Wait NV Aerith is a dark mage, wtf?
     
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    Search for "allow use" including quotation marks on the Encyclopedia tab. That's the text string that the builder uses for abilities that expand equipment choices.

    EDIT: NVM, should have read more of the thread...
     
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    Thank you anyway! ::rudecat5::
     
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    Tifa and nerf in the same sentence is sacrilegious talk. If you think Alim loves Tifa, Gumi adores Tifa with the buffs they give her.
     
  15. Ashlag

    Ashlag Avoid political talk here, it's a landmine Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

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    Sure, but even uber whale won't get that high before a good while. So for now, it's not that important, and even if you have Ace or Rem you can use several Damage Dealers anyway.
     
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    This thread makes me think that ... NV Elena may not be a good deal. ::thonk::

    The mods would always be lowered vs the stronger defensive stat. An unlikely case, but worse if one damage type is totally resisted. The devs cannot give NV Elena OP mods too. The NV powercreep is already not a good thing ... We shall see.
    Same here. Well, not "disappointed". More like "surprised", personally.

    Thought it would help in sales for Zenaida and yes Kuja, if they launched a DV on Kuja's week.

    Anyway, think I would really use Tifa in DV's magic stage, just for the fun of it~! Thanks~! ::blackmage::
     
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    But only for fire and light. Tifa being imbueable and with easier access to killers will outdamage him on non fire/light weak stages.
     
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    I'm still thinking that Elena will be the first NV NeoHybrid. That's the only thing that would make sense to me. Otherwise no one would like to have her now that everything is centered around DV. And I also think that they will make her OP again.

    NeoHybrid or TrueHybrid as in she's doing physical damage in her normal form and physical type magic damage in her BS form. If they make that happen she will be hyped like crazy and can be used for both type of enemies in DV. This would actually be great. She would be the most loved unit again :)
     
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    Youd still use zen on stone stages due to her killers instead of bringing dead weight like cg jake. Also isnt the sheet cited in op the jp sheet? I remember someone doin the calcs on reddit and it found that gl ace and rem will do more damage chaining that using lb build unless max whale gear iirc
     
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    Besides that you can pair Zen with Tifa and double BOOM on every mofo. You will bring more than just one chainer for the capping anyways.
     
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