1. New rules regarding the forum and the chatbox can be found here!.
  2. Want more banners on your profile? You can achieve the Arena Runner Up and Monthly Arena Champ banner now in the Monthly Arena Contest! If you want to participate, click on the link here
  3. Be part of the campaign rinny launched, now hosted by Memel0rd, and earn a new banner on the forum, The Supporter Campaign! - Check out the thread for more details Here
  4. Interested or play the JP version of ffbe? Join the discussions in our JP section here!.
  5. We now have our own Discord Server up and running! For more information, go to the thread here!.

Unit Review: Aranea (Final Fantasy XV)

Discussion in 'Unit Reviews' started by Memel0rd, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Memel0rd

    Memel0rd Back from Vacation Staff Member Administrator Forum Manager VIP Supporter Arena Runner-Up S1

    Messages:
    4,358
    Likes Received:
    12,960
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Global ID:
    472,964,042
    Japan ID:
    991,559,429
    Leads:
    GL: Tidus | JP: Randi
    Rank:
    135
    A captain of the Niflheim military forces spoken of in stories from the faraway land of Eos. Aranea is a dragoon that specializes in aerial assaults with her magitek lance. A former mercenary who was eventually promoted for her talents, she has gained the loyalty of her troops thanks to her caring attitude towards others, unbreakable spirit, and expertise in the art of battle. She despises Niflheim's magitek infantry, an army of robotic soldiers that serves the empire, showing a deep appreciation for her human subordinates instead.
    This review will be a bit shorter. I apologise for the delay, the next two weeks will look similar to this one thus expect a few delays here and there.

    Aranea Review by Memel0rd

    [​IMG]

    In-Game Sprites:
    [​IMG] 5*
    [​IMG] 6*

    Equipment Selection: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    No innate weaknesses | No innate resistances
    Trust Master Reward: Stoss Spear (Spear) - 140 ATK, High Jump
    Damage range 100% - 160%, Accuracy+50%
    Two-handed weapon


    6* Stats at Lvl. 100:
    HP: 3632 (+390) Mag: 118 (+30)
    MP: 163 (+65) Def: 140 (+26)
    Atk: 152 (+34) Spr: 130 (+26)


    6* Limit Burst:
    Highwind (Base / 20 LB-Crysts): 1-Hit Physical damage (4.8x) with ignore DEF (50%) to one enemy
    Highwind (Max / 20 LB-Crysts): 1-Hit Physical damage (6x) with ignore DEF (50%) to one enemy


    5*: Lvl 1 Forward Lunge (37 MP / 3-Hit) - Physical damage (4x) to one enemy

    5*: Lvl 12 Dispel Lance (10 MP / D-Hit) - Physical damage (2x) to one enemy
    Remove all status effects from one enemy

    5*: Lvl 36 Brandish (23 MP / 1-Hit) - Physical damage (2x) to all enemies

    6*: Lvl 55 Air Recovery (50 MP / 1-Hit) - Recover MP (150) to caster
    Recover HP (3000) to caster
    Physical damage (5.5x) with jump delay (1 turn) to one enemy

    6*: Lvl 82 Air Innovation (45 MP / 1-Hit) - Increase LB gauge (8) to caster
    Physical damage (5.5x) with jump delay (1 turn) to one enemy

    6*: Lvl 100 Swooping Blow (32 MP / 1-Hit / 1-Hit) - Physical damage (1x) with delay (1 turn) to all enemies
    Physical damage (5.5x) with jump delay (1 turn) to one enemy
    5*: Lvl 49 - DEF + 30%

    5*: Lvl 60 Electric Actuator - Chance to evade magic damage taken (20%)

    5*: Lvl 73 Auto-Refresh - Recover MP (5%) per turn

    5*: Lvl 80 Soulless Hammer - Increase physical damage against demons, mechanical, and undead monsters (75%)

    6*: Lvl 1 Wind Reader - Increase jump damage (100%)

    6*: Lvl 23 Polearm Arts - Increase equipment ATK (100%) when single wielding any weapon
    Increase accuracy (25%) when single wielding any weapon


    6*:
    Lvl 34 Polearm Combo - Chance to counter physical attacks (50%) with Spear Combo (max 1/turn)
    Spear Combo (3-Hit) - Physical damage (2x) to all enemies

    6*: Lvl 41 Spear Mastery - Increase ATK (50%) when equipped with a spear

    6*: Lvl 67 - HP + 30%


    Pros:
    Aranea's
    biggest pro is her looks in the game. I mean, she looks like fanservice.

    Though for the sake of staying family friendly...
    Her stats are great. Very beefy DPS with high ATK, good HP, high DEF and decent SPR while also having innate 100% True Doublehand coupled with 50% ATK while wielding a spear. This not only perfectly matches her TMR, but by itself means a lot of fire power. Aranea also has innte 30% HP/DEF, making her a lot bulkier, coupled with 20% mag dodge and 5% MP refresh. Stat wise, Aranea looks promising.

    Going a bit off the review trail, her Soulless Hammer grants her 3 75% killers. Demon, Machine and Undead killer. Which is kinda funny because in the game she is the captain of Niflheim's military while all her killers basically are strong against... Niflheim. Anyway, 3 75% killers are a large boost in damage when they do occur.

    Polearm Combo is a straight forward 50% phys counter that deals damage with a 200% mod with one max per turn. This might be handy for the Arena, which I will talk about later on, but also can be a source of some decent free damage because Aranea will have very high ATK as you will see later on.

    Moving on, Aranea reveals her true identity as.... Dragoon....
    She has three different jumps, each of which having their own usage.
    Air Recovery is a 1 turn delay 550% 1-Hit jump while restoring her own HP by 3000 and her own MP by 150 (effectively 100 MP), which for a jump is already pretty strong damage.
    Air Innovation is the same jump but instead of healing her, it grants her 8 LB crysts, which is a good thing technically due to her Limit Burst being quite powerful.
    And lastly we have Swooping Blow, which, ONCE AGAIN, is the same jump but while doing anything to support herself, it adds a 100% 1 turn delay finisher on top of it.
    All these jumps become a lot stronger when you factor her passive Wind Reader into account.
    Why?
    It increases all jump damage by 100%, which basically means double the modifier. And her own TMR does that as well, so you see how strong a jump can become. In theory.

    For her last ability we are taking a look at, we have her Limit Burst. Which takes 20 crysts to fill up and then unleashes a 980% -> 1200% finisher, which is pretty high. You definitely want to use that if you use Aranea.


    Cons:
    While this is the part in most of my reviews that is pretty short in comparison to the pros, it will probably be relatively long this time around.

    Aranea's most obvious issue is being a dragoon. She does have great stats, but jumps currently in the game are just awful in every way. The only really usable chainer (if it works), would be Ang. However, Ang is a limited 5* unit which only a few were able to obtain while both focus on True Doublehand thus you'd need a lot lot lot gear to make it worthwhile. Why is Ang the only real chainer? Because he chains with delayed moves, jumps cannot be controlled thus they land on the beginning of the turn. You cannot chain finish this with regular chainers.
    Outside of that, jumps have another gimmick. You basically cut your own damage in half if you look at the average damage. Since you use one turn to jump up, you use two turns for dealing damage once, which thus looking at two turns you cut your damage in half.

    Ok, but we still have her Limit Burst to use if we can't really use her jumps to deal damage. Right?
    Well, technically yes. Sadly Aranea does not have innate Limit Burst fillrate passives and her LB takes up 20 crysts. You will have a hard time getting this reliably every second turn and pretty much impossible to get it every turn. And even then, outside of the listed issues, there is STILL something wrong with that.

    Maybe you figured it out by now.
    Aranea is unable to infuse elements. The same issue Cloud has, which makes them both a lot worse than they could be, sadly. You'd need external element imbues, which are restricted to Desch (whom not many really use), Christine ,CKA and Ray Jack (all 5* limited) and .... Summer Lid. Not really something I'd like to use.

    Damage wise, her highest finisher modifier outside of jumps and her Limit Burst is Forward Lunge, which is only a 400% modifier. Very outdated in that regard.

    And, for the sake of listing up all cons, Aranea has no status ailment protection, which makes it harder to gear against fights like Malboro / Echidna. IF you choose to use her in these fights.


    Side-Notes:
    Aranea
    has a 7* version in JP and it didn't fix all of her issues.
    She gets two timed jumps, which are generally a good thing. But her strong timed jump has a 2 turn delay, so you use up three turns for dealing damage once. Outside of that, she still can't infuse elements onto herself, which makes her a lot worse compared to Duke 7*, Helmless Kain 7* and Flammie 7*.
    Outside of that, I don't know any cheesy strategies that involve Aranea. If you want a good Dragoon, just wait for Helmless Kain. He'll be a lot better than her.


    Best In Slot:
    In case you want to use her, keep in mind that a build that uses Dragoon Gauntlet instead of a second Marshal Glove only deals 5% less damage. Great choice for cheaper builds.
    Stoss Spear (140 ATK, 1.3x avg damage variance, 100% jump damage, two handed)
    Rider's Helm (28 ATK)
    Cloud's Uniform (15 ATK)
    2x Marshal Gloves (80 ATK, 100% TDH)
    Buster Style (100% TDH)
    Dragoon's Pride (60% ATK)
    SSP - Wind (50% ATK, 25% Jump)
    ADV 5 (40% ATK)

    ATK with Bahamut:
    1674
    325% jump boost
    Here are also some numbers about her damage output with her Limit Burst etc., in case you are interested.
    1860 ATK with 100% ATK

    Turn 1: 1860^2 x 1.3 x 4 x 4 = 71,959,680
    Turn 2: 1860^2 x 1.3 x 4 x 4 = 71,959,680
    Turn 3: 1860^2 x 1.3 x 12 x 4 = 215,879,040

    DPT per rotation: 119,932,800
    aka far away from being meta


    Arena:
    Aranea
    doesn't really appeal in here either. She can reach 100% accuracy easily while also having an AoE physical counter, but she doesn't chain with anything, she only has one AoE damage counter. Cloud for instance has status ailment protection and also has AoE chains with high to 100% accuracy. She's usable but there are options that are better in every way. For instance Cloud.




    Aranea [​IMG] VS [​IMG] Duke
    • Duke has higher base ATK and higher ATK passives (30%)
    • Aranea has innate 100% TDH
    • Duke has higher innate Jump Passives (20% higher)
    • Both have 3 killers (Duke 2x 50% | 1x 100% ; Aranea 3x 75%)
    • Duke has status ailment protection
    • Duke can imbue elements
    • Duke is a lot slower in his rotation
    • Duke's chain move can't perfectly chain with DW
    • Aranea has higher base jump modifiers and a faster rotation
    • Aranea's Limit Burst is a hard hitting finisher
    Let's be honest, everybody knows Duke is one of the worst FFBE units at the current moment. His dragoon rotation, to be actually effective, is very slow and has to set him up. Basically you use two turns for setting him up and then use two turns for his jumps, which will make his damage go poof basically.
    While Aranea's issue as a dragoon is to not have any elements, I went ahead and calculated her jump damage in case you are interested.
    1860 ATK with 100% ATK
    1589 ATK with 100% ATK and dragoon gauntlet

    225% jump boost vs 325%


    1860^2 x 17,875 x 1.3 x 4 = 321,569,820 (160,784,910 averagely)
    1589^2 x 23,375 x 1.3 x 4 = 306,904,148 (153,452,074 averagely)
    Aranea wins.


    Trust Master Reward:
    This one for what it is currently is pretty strong, but Zodiac Spear, a weapon not many use, is basically the same with 10 ATK less. However, in the future this TMR will be very important! It will be a spear dragoons will like and you know that every dragoon (besides Fohlen) gets timed jumps, thus Dragoons are actually good. Helmless Kain 7* will love this spear! For now, just skip it. Unless you use it for Dark Knight Cecil's BiS.


    Conclusion:
    Frankly, Aranea is bad.
    Jumps are horrible to use due to not being able be controlled. And even then, the timing of the jump lands are random as well, which was a huge issue with Reberta since she doesn't always finish herself.
    Aranea's regular moves in a realistic rotation have awful damage output due to bad modifiers, are hard to get Limit Burst (for spam purposes) and she doesn't have any elemental imbues, which also makes her damage drop by a lot.
    Aranea is only worth to pull for her TMR or for actually wanting a unit for being said character from the respective game. If you are a whale and want to cover possible STMRs in the future, hers is 100% TDH and 30% ATK with spears, thus a very strong and important STMR in GL TDH builds.
    Besides that, even though Prompto is very strong, don't pull unless you wouldn't mind her / her TMR.

    Character Design: 5/10
    Sprite: 8/10 (her 7* takes the helm off)
    Finisher: 6/10
    Trust Master Reward: 8.5/10
    Arena: 7/10
    Limit Burst: 8/10
    Future Proof: 6/10
    Free 2 Play: 5/10
    Pay 2 Play: 7.5/10
    Personal Rating: 6/10
    Optimal Rating: 7/10


    [On-Banner Reviews]
    [​IMG] Prompto (5*)


    Wanna support me?
    I put a lot of effort into it!
    Everything helps
    My Patreon


    I honestly wanted her to get buffed, wanted her to be good. I liked her at least a little in the actual game and to be fair, she has good curves. But that doesn't matter to me in a world of pixels and numbers *evil laugh*.
    Hope you guys had a good weekend!

    Memel0rd out
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2018
    Fahri99, Xander, Perunsin and 30 others like this.
  2. Jman1115

    Jman1115 The bewbsologist VIP Supporter

    Messages:
    2,637
    Likes Received:
    1,932
    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Global ID:
    338 898 279
    Leads:
    A2
    Rank:
    140
    Can you cap a Kelsus chain? Still doing half damage essentially, just curious
     
    mishtachris likes this.
  3. Reiho

    Reiho Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    683
    Likes Received:
    265
    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2017
    Global ID:
    054607383
    Leads:
    CG Fina/Sakura or Fryevia
    Rank:
    150
    Yay me for having pulled another troll rainbow. Oh well. At least I can farm Duke's TMR now with a reason, should I have more moogles lying around... And the TMR is free at least... Maybe I'll put her into Arena...
     
  4. Tensui

    Tensui Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    50
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2017
    Global ID:
    383130085
    Leads:
    Blossom Sage Sakura, Ang, Cloud
    Rank:
    110
    Thanks for the review as always, Meme. Any chance of a Reberta comparison? I know Aranea wins in raw damage, but Reberta has those AoE imperils and chains her charged-up Death Crimson with copies of herself to great effect. Curious to know what you think.
     
  5. Memel0rd

    Memel0rd Back from Vacation Staff Member Administrator Forum Manager VIP Supporter Arena Runner-Up S1

    Messages:
    4,358
    Likes Received:
    12,960
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Global ID:
    472,964,042
    Japan ID:
    991,559,429
    Leads:
    GL: Tidus | JP: Randi
    Rank:
    135
    You can iirc.
     
    Agrieus and Jman1115 like this.
  6. Memel0rd

    Memel0rd Back from Vacation Staff Member Administrator Forum Manager VIP Supporter Arena Runner-Up S1

    Messages:
    4,358
    Likes Received:
    12,960
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Global ID:
    472,964,042
    Japan ID:
    991,559,429
    Leads:
    GL: Tidus | JP: Randi
    Rank:
    135
    Reberta is a chainer, Aranea a finisher
     
    mishtachris and Volfan4life87 like this.
  7. Konomiru

    Konomiru Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    54
    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2017
    Global ID:
    999380254
    Rank:
    45
    On the jp side one of these added me and could 1 shot the xurrent SoM2 raid boss...being broke and having no dragoons this side and unsure on promto i decided i wouldnt pull but since the event has so many trust moogles from prompt and ara im like 'pfft wonder if this 1 summon ticket can pull a rainbow. But just the one.' So i did my 1 ticket and bam. Blue crystal. Outstanding
    But whats that...its upgraded yellow..maybe another corr thatd be nice. Nope a 2nd upgrade :eek: dat luck. Who be? Motherflippin ara!! Immediately come here read the review then feel dissappointed >. <
     
    Lyonell, Redtide and Memel0rd like this.
  8. Kiramon

    Kiramon Ascended Member

    Messages:
    1,366
    Likes Received:
    638
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2017
    You laugh but my team of dragoon’s jumping over thresholds will rule the day!! ...

    Anyways,

    doesn’t that one unit recently Have a TMR that can imbue haha— oh and charming kitty can imbue water
     
    Xacques, Phlucious and Memel0rd like this.
  9. Cherub

    Cherub Fact: CKA is #3 Healer VIP Supporter

    Messages:
    1,607
    Likes Received:
    2,239
    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Global ID:
    286,005,261
    Leads:
    dwTidus, eFry, A2, Charming Kitty Ari
    Whelp, then this is a unit I certainly hope I never, ever pull.
    Her sprite is hideous. The helmet ruins it.

    I love Prompto but the thought of getting Aranea instead....... not worth it.
     
    Volfan4life87 likes this.
  10. House of Anchors

    House of Anchors Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    307
    Likes Received:
    190
    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2017
    Thanks for the review! I guess they can't all be winners, even if spear users are my faves...
     
    Memel0rd likes this.
  11. Memel0rd

    Memel0rd Back from Vacation Staff Member Administrator Forum Manager VIP Supporter Arena Runner-Up S1

    Messages:
    4,358
    Likes Received:
    12,960
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Global ID:
    472,964,042
    Japan ID:
    991,559,429
    Leads:
    GL: Tidus | JP: Randi
    Rank:
    135
    I meant in the game, not her actual sprite in FFBE :D
     
    Redtide likes this.
  12. Bitzpleze

    Bitzpleze Mad Sciontist VIP

    Messages:
    1,675
    Likes Received:
    744
    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2016
    Charming Kitty Ariana also has an elemental imbue.

    I don't see how she is fanservice in game. It's obvious if you played Ff XV. Her sprite isn't very nice in ffbe.
     
  13. Phlucious

    Phlucious Active Member

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    3
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2018
    Aren’t there enough dragons in the game at this point that building a full team of them would be viable? I’ve never run with enough of them to find out if they can chain on each other, but it seems like they could. Duke’s banner had a jump healer, Aranea and Noctis can self heal, Duke himself is reasonably strong, etc. Seems like with good timing it’d be effective on bosses with infrequent heavy hits.
     
    Moses likes this.
  14. Cherub

    Cherub Fact: CKA is #3 Healer VIP Supporter

    Messages:
    1,607
    Likes Received:
    2,239
    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Global ID:
    286,005,261
    Leads:
    dwTidus, eFry, A2, Charming Kitty Ari
    Gotcha. Yeah, I'm mad bc her model in her original game is really nice. The FFBE sprite is ugly!
     
  15. Ashlag

    Ashlag Please avoid back-to-back posts, do it at once :) Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

    Messages:
    4,421
    Likes Received:
    4,173
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Global ID:
    955,524,234
    Leads:
    eTidus DW, eFry, or other cool stuff
    Rank:
    147
    In her 7* form, she let loose the helm. This is better.
     
  16. Memel0rd

    Memel0rd Back from Vacation Staff Member Administrator Forum Manager VIP Supporter Arena Runner-Up S1

    Messages:
    4,358
    Likes Received:
    12,960
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Global ID:
    472,964,042
    Japan ID:
    991,559,429
    Leads:
    GL: Tidus | JP: Randi
    Rank:
    135
    i meant the FFXV model
     
  17. Cherub

    Cherub Fact: CKA is #3 Healer VIP Supporter

    Messages:
    1,607
    Likes Received:
    2,239
    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Global ID:
    286,005,261
    Leads:
    dwTidus, eFry, A2, Charming Kitty Ari
    Oh I didn't know that. Seems like they knew how bad they messed up, can't recall a sprite changing that much from one star awakening to the next.
     
  18. Arnatuile

    Arnatuile Wolf of Lapis Street Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

    Messages:
    2,717
    Likes Received:
    3,734
    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2017
    You certainly know there is no need to pull when the most interesting discussion about a unit you can come up with is their appearance ::rudecat5::
     
    Malik, Khidir, Carnefix and 1 other person like this.
  19. Memel0rd

    Memel0rd Back from Vacation Staff Member Administrator Forum Manager VIP Supporter Arena Runner-Up S1

    Messages:
    4,358
    Likes Received:
    12,960
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2017
    Global ID:
    472,964,042
    Japan ID:
    991,559,429
    Leads:
    GL: Tidus | JP: Randi
    Rank:
    135
    ::haha::
     
  20. Konomiru

    Konomiru Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    54
    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2017
    Global ID:
    999380254
    Rank:
    45
    I have a 7star on my f.list. she still has a helm on until you win a battle.
     

Share This Page