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Unit Review: Hyoh (Final Fantasy Brave Exvius)

Discussion in 'Unit Reviews' started by Memel0rd, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. Memel0rd

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    The Delta Star of the Aldore Orders, a group of elite warriors directly under the command of the Emperor of Aldore, who rose through the ranks in record time. Hyoh's identity is a total mystery. He rarely interacts with any of the other Orders, yet Nagi of the Iota Star seems to follow him everywhere regardless of his indifference.
    Please don't spoil anybody about his identity. Some of us, me included, already know what's happening due to playing the JP story. :)


    Hyoh Review by Memel0rd

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    [ drawn by AndyFace ]


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    No innate resistances | No innate weaknesses
    Trust Master Reward: Hyoh's Clothes (Clothes) - 28 ATK, 42 DEF, 30% ATK with Large Swords
    STMR: Ultima Weapon (Large Sword) - 180 ATK, 1-H


    7* Stats at Lvl. 120:
    HP: 4762 (+540) Mag: 142 (+40)
    MP: 211 (+90) Def: 180 (+40)
    Atk: 203 (+65) Spr: 170 (+40)


    7* Limit Burst:
    Extreme Nova (Base / 30 LB-Crysts): 30-Hit Physical damage (16.1x) to all enemies

    Extreme Nova (Max / 30 LB-Crysts): 30-Hit Physical damage (19x) to all enemies


    5*: Lvl 1 Dual Slash (27 MP / D-Hit) - Physical damage combo (2 times, 1.6x each, 3.2x total) to all enemies

    5*: Lvl 48 Selfless State (12 MP) - Increase ATK (100%) for 3 turns to caster

    5*: Lvl 80 Flame Blade (35 MP / 7-Hit) - Physical damage (3.5x) to one enemy
    Decrease fire resistance (60%) for 3 turns to one enemy
    (Chaining family: Divine Ruination)

    5*: Lvl 80 Voltage Blade (35 MP / 7-Hit) - Physical damage (3.5x) to one enemy
    Decrease lightning resistance (60%) for 3 turns to one enemy
    (Chaining family: Divine Ruination)

    6*: Lvl 34 Life-severing Blade (14 MP / 1-Hit) - Instant KO (50%) or deal physical damage (2.1x) to one enemy

    6*: Lvl 55 Unknown Traitor (25 MP / 1-Hit) - Physical* damage (1.8x) to all enemies
    Remove all status effects from all enemies

    6*: Lvl 68 Heat Drive (36 MP) - Mitigate damage taken (30%) for 3 turns to caster
    Increase DEF/SPR (100%) for 3 turns to caster

    6*: Lvl 92 Ruthless Blade (48 MP / 6-Hit / 6-Hit) - Physical damage (2x) to one enemy
    Physical damage (1.5x) to all enemies
    (Chaining family: Onion Slice)

    6*: Lvl 100 Improve Stance (20 MP) - Cure stats break to caster
    Enables access for 1 turn: Triple Blade

    6*: Lvl 100 Servant of the Blade (52 MP / 6-Hit / 1-Hit) - Physical damage (0.5x) to one enemy
    Physical damage (1.8x) with ignore DEF (50%) to all enemies
    (Chaining family: Divine Ruination)

    6*: Lvl 100 Double Blade (0 MP) - Use Flame Blade, Life-severing Blade, Phantom Blade, Ruthless Blade, Servant of the Blade, Unknown Traitor, Voltage Blade 2 times in one turn

    7*: Lvl 105 Phantom Blade (99 MP / 6-Hit / 1-Hit) - [5 turns cooldown, available on turn 5]
    Physical damage (2.8x) with ignore DEF (50%) to one enemy
    Physical damage (2.8x) with ignore DEF (50%) to all enemies
    Decrease fire and lightning resistance (100%) for 3 turns to all enemies
    (Chaining family: Divine Ruination)

    7*: Lvl 105 Way of the Void (99 MP) - [5 turns cooldown, available on turn 1]
    Enables access for 2 turns: Triple Blade
    Increase ATK (200%) for 3 turns to caster
    Recover HP (100%) to caster
    5*: Lvl 76 - HP + 30%

    6*: Lvl 1 - HP/MP + 20%

    6*: Lvl 5 Auto-Refresh - Recover MP (5%) per turn

    6*: Lvl 14 - ATK + 30%

    6*: Lvl 72 Large Sword Mastery - Increase ATK (50%) when equipped with a great sword

    7*: Lvl 101 Merciless Blade - [Requirement: TMR equipped]
    Increase equipment ATK (100%) when single wielding any weapon
    Increase accuracy (25%) when single wielding any weapon
    Chance to counter physical attacks (30%) with Enable Triple Cast for 1 Turn (max 1/turn)

    7*: Lvl 110 The Delta Star - Increase modifier (0.5x) to Ruthless Blade
    Auto-cast Selfless State at the start of a battle

    7*: Lvl 115 - SPR + 20%

    7*: Lvl 120 Unrivaled Talent - Increase modifier (0.5x) to Servant of the Blade
    Increase ATK (30%) when equipped with a great sword
    5*: Lvl 1 Firaga (20 MP / 1-Hit) - Fire magic damage (1.8x) to all enemies

    6*: Lvl 14 Firaja (28 MP / 1-Hit) - Fire magic damage (2x) with consecutive increase (4 times, 1x each, 6x max) to all enemies


    Pros:
    Spoilers: Hyoh is a monster.
    I also really like that his ability names match his story and character so well.

    Hyoh's basestats are great. High ATK with good HP/DEF/SPR and decent MP. Once fully level'd up Hyoh gains a total of 110% ATK with Large Sword, 50% HP, 20% MP/SPR and 5% MP refresh, which is really nice. At the start of the battle or upon reviving him Hyoh automatically buffs his own ATK by 100% for 3 turns, making abilities like Craddle of Horns a lot better now due to not lacking ATK buffs.

    His own Trust Master adds a lot to any large sword user, which is a great boost for Hyoh. Not only does it have 28 ATK, which is the highest ATK chest obtainable outside of STMRs, but it also increases your ATK by 30% when equipped with a Large Sword, making for a huge ATK gain.
    But when Hyoh equips it he gains 100% True Doublehand innately making it more than just worth it. He can also counter physical / magic hits by 30% with a self enable Triple Cast, however this is pretty luck based. If both of your Hyoh's get it on turns where you don't have T-Cast anyway that can be a large damage boost.

    Hyoh at 6* gains W-Ability for most of his abilities. Every ability can be dualcasted except for his self buffs and Dual Slash.

    Not having W-Ability on Dual Slash won't hurt him. It's the kind of "use me for events" ability. In fact, it's the exact same as VotD's Dual Slash. Story Theories aside, for any kind of event this is a cheap ability that can easily clear most waves except for some LGD King Mog bosses as long as your ATK is high enough.

    Some slight utility coming from Hyoh is Unknown Traitor. Slight AoE fixed damage with an AoE Dispel. As I always say: AoE Dispels are useful in a lot of different fights. Especially the damage dealing ones can be used on your own team. Though... be careful. Hyoh's high ATK might kill you if you use it on yourself. I don't recommend doing that.

    Hyoh is able to chain with two families perfectly. The Divine Ruination family as well as the Onion Slice one, though the latter isn't as prominent.

    Ruthless Blade is still worth mentioning because of that. If you only have Onion Knight to go with you still have options to chain Hyoh with him. Though be careful, Onion Knight's enhanced Onion Slice (enabled through using an enhanced splendor) has different frames. The first 6 hits of his ability are ST and the last 6 hits are AoE. At level 110 this goes from a total 350% modifier to 450%.

    Chaining with the Divine Ruination family is currently an amazing trait. It's a large family with many members. Hyoh not only has one, not two but four different abilities that share the same frames.

    His first two ones are Flame / Voltage Blade. Both have a 350% modifier and either a 60% fire or thunder imperil for 3 turns. You'll use them before Turn 5 quite often.

    The third ability is Servant of the Blade, which is one of the most well known abilities for backloaded chains.
    The first 6 hits of it have a total 50% modifier against one enemy, which sounds pathetic. The last hit is an AoE 360% hit, so most of its damage comes from the last hit which means he basically self caps his own chain.
    However at level 120 it gets a 50% modifier boost. This means the first 6 hits now have a 100% modifier and the last hit has a 460% modifier. So we are looking at a total 560% mod with backloaded damage.

    Lastly he has Phantom Blade, which is firstly available at Turn 5 and has a 5 turn cooldown. But the increase in damage is ... massive.
    Just like Servant of the Blade Hyoh's first 6 hits are ST and the last one is AoE. In this case both parts of the ability have a 560% modifier for a total 1120% modifier. What's different though is that it includes an AoE 3 turn 100% Lightning / Fire imperil. IF you use two Hyoh's you might want to preserve it for one of them to keep the 100% imperil up at all times.

    His second cooldown ability makes Hyoh even more powerful. Available on Turn 1 with a 5 turn cooldown you will gain Triple Cast for all abilities that were previously able to be dualcasted for the following 2 turns. During that time Hyoh will have a 200% ATK buff and upon casting it also recovers all of his HP. This results in a large damage spike when combined with his Phantom Blade and makes Hyoh such a strong damage dealer.

    We are missing one last thing... Hyoh's Limit Burst. It does take quite a lot to get to with 30 crysts, but it pays off.
    At max you have an AoE 30 hit LB with a total 1900% modifier. This deals devastating damage as it can perfectly chain with a dupe Hyoh. This scales really well with Squall's STMR in case you have it.
    What makes it even more interesting for 10 man trial or possible LB kill missions is that it chains with BS Sakura's and Kid Rydia's Limit Burst as well as partially with Awakened Rain's limit burst.

    All in one we have ourselves a mighty damage dealer.


    Cons:
    Hyoh
    only has very few cons currently.

    Hyoh's MP consumption can hit outstanding levels and you should be prepared for that. With his Triple Cast available as well as his Phantom Blade you can hit 200 MP on that one turn. On off turns he still consumes ~100 MP. His own 5% MP refresh barely do anything, so if the fight lasts longer than a few turns you should watch out. This is probably his biggest con as of right now.

    The lack of status ailment protection can hurt you when you lose a lot of ATK through equipping e.g. a Ribbon. This is the same case for Hyoh. Unless you will just cure it you might lose out on a lot of potential ATK to make Hyoh resistant against some fights.

    Other than that the last con is nitpicking.
    Hyoh loses out on potential from not imbueing any element onto himself. Bomb Arms also isn't a good option because it doesn't fit really into his rotation due to its 3 turn limitation. This means either you use a 1H elemental Large Sword or you will need an external imbue. If you have Nalu's STMR that is the best option for him EVEN if you lose 110% total ATK from that.


    Side-Notes:
    Hyoh doesn't have enhancements in JP
    .
    Hyoh, once we get the next 7* batch, will receive huge support for early fights. While I made a comparison thread about Nyx VS Hyoh , Nyx also works insanely well WITH Hyoh. Nyx has a CD ability on Turn 1 that kills himself in return of filling everybody else's LB gauge by 28. This means if you have an Ayaka / CG Nichol on your team as well as Nyx 7 star you can have Hyoh's LB ready at level 1. And most content will simply melt away against Hyoh's Limit Burst.
    While some future units will match his damage, e.g. Tidus (slightly lower) and Nyx (slightly higher), they aren't as easy and comfortable to use as Hyoh while his potential over longer fights increases. Over the course of time powercreep will beat Hyoh with units such as Randi and then units like Jecht, but it only gets really noticeable when we reach Akstar and Citan, who are both far in the future. And Citan isn't even confirmed to come to GL. But even then his Divine Ruination frames might still be serviceable for you. Hyoh is the most future proof damage dealer in GL so far.


    Best In Slot:
    No limited TMRs, one No STMR build and one with STMRs.
    Flaming Blade Agni (125 ATK, Fire)
    Prishe's Hairpin (45 ATK, 10% HP/MP)
    Hyoh's Clothes (28 ATK, 42 DEF, 30% ATK) & 100% TDH
    2x Marshal Gloves (80 ATK, 100% TDH, 4 Auto LB)
    Buster Style (100% TDH)
    Large Sword Mastery (50% ATK)
    Proud Fencer (40% ATK, 20% HP)
    ADV 5 (40% ATK/DEF/SPR)

    Stats with Titan 3*:
    9675 HP
    437 MP
    2207 ATK
    438 DEF
    399 SPR
    Vajrayana (175 ATK, Thunder, ~1.25x avg variance)
    Genji Helm (45 ATK, 15 DEF, 2 SPR)
    Hyoh's Clothes (28 ATK, 42 DEF) & 100% TDH
    2x Marshal Gloves (80 ATK, 100% TDH, 4 Auto LB)
    Buster Style (100% TDH)
    A Lion's Heart (+55% LB Damage, 3 Auto LB)
    The Subservient (80% ATK, 2000 HP damage / turn)
    Dragoon's Pride (60% ATK)

    Stats with Titan 3*:
    8084 HP
    407 MP
    2139 ATK
    365 DEF
    317 SPR


    How is the unit as a 6*?
    Hyoh as a 6* unit is surprisingly good
    .
    He has high ATK, has access to his Servant of the Blade as well as W-Ability and can still imperil. His LB also still chains with his 7 star counterpart so you can easily pair him up with one of your 7 star Hyoh friends.
    Even outside of that, W-Abilty with DR frames can always be useful. So as long as you have to wait for Hyoh's event to wait to e.g. UoC him, his 6 star form is more than serviceable.


    Arena:
    Hyoh is really strong in the Arena.
    Why? His abilities that first deal ST damage and then AoE don't get reduced by damage contribution. They both deal up to 999 damage, which means you will deal 2x ST damage and x2 AoE damage. His Onion Slice move perfectly chains and you will see strong tanks in Arena at some point, making the ST chains quite effective as he has 4x damage against them. Access to easy 100% accuracy with W ability and high chain damage....
    Only issue is his lack of status ailment protection.




    Hyoh [​IMG]Damage Output
    - Damage Comparison -

    Let's take a look at Hyoh's damage output with TMRs and how he compares to other chainers currently. This is taking average damage into account, keep that in mind.
    Assuming 100% / 200% ATK buff
    ATK post buff: 2476 | 2743
    Assuming spark chains

    Backloaded chains are split up to make it easier to calculate.

    Turn 1: 2476^2 x 3.5 x 3.21 x 1.3 + 2476^2 x 5.6 x 4 x 1.6 = 309,259,971 (Flame Blade + Servant of the Blade)
    Turn 2: 2476^2 x 1 x 2.82 x 1.6 + 2476^2 x 4.6 x 4 x 1.6 + 2476^2 x 5.6 x 4 x 1.6 = 427,865,160 (2x Servant of the Blade)
    Turn 3: 0 (Cooldown Ability) t-cast + 200% ATK
    Turn 4: 2743^2 x 3.5 x 3.21 x 1.6 + 2743^2 x 5.6 x 4 x 1.6 x 2 = 674,576,137 (Flame Blade + 2x Blade Slave)
    Turn 5: 2743^2 x 5.6 x 2.82 x 1.8 + 2743^2 x 5.6 x 4 x 1.8 + 2743^2 x 5.6 x 4 x 2 x 2 = 1,191,400,053 (CD Ability + 2x Servant of the Blade)
    Turn 6: 2476^2 x 19 x 3.8 x 2 = 885,255,174 (Limit Burst)


    Average: 520,620,264 (5 turns)
    -> 122% higher than Orlandeau ( 234,353,751 )
    -> 99% higher than Lightning ( 261,137,574 )
    -> 84% higher than Squall ( 282,433,060 )
    -> 80% higher than Shadow Lord ( 289,544,357 )
    -> 51% higher than Adam Jensen ( 345,728,425 )
    -> 42% higher than Nalu ( 365,676,755 )

    With LB: 601,160,280 (6 turns)
    -> 156% higher than Orlandeau ( 234,353,751 )
    -> 130% higher than Lightning ( 261,137,574 )
    -> 123% higher than Squall ( 282,433,060 )
    -> 101% higher than Shadow Lord ( 289,544,357 )
    -> 74% higher than Adam Jensen ( 345,728,425 )
    -> 64% higher than Nalu ( 365,676,755 )
    Yeah... you can see that Hyoh is far far higher than our current chainers. Hyoh is a powerhouse that also works insane in 10 man trials and can swap elements quite easily without any real drawbacks.
    Easy to use, huge damage output and the longer the fight the higher his average damage will be, too. And if you get lucky and both Hyoh's get a T-Cast counter on turns where you don't have it up already... more damage again!

    For some other comparisons, I opened a thread about Nyx VS Hyoh : https://redd.it/9ew09u
    There is also a reddit thread covering DefiantHermit's damage spreadsheet. Do note not every unit is added with their STMR builds: https://redd.it/9f07xv


    Trust Master Reward:
    Hyoh's
    TMR for any Large Sword user that can equip clothes is just ridiculous. 28 ATK per se is already the highest ATK chest gear that we have outside of STMRS, so only for that it's worth getting as it adds a total 32 ATK with 300% TDH over Training Clothes. But it also adds 30% ATK when equipped with a Large Sword AND 100% TDH on Hyoh himself. Easily BiS for him and many other Large Sword users. Great TMR.


    Super Trust Master Reward:
    His STMR isn't that exciting though. It's a 180 ATK 1-H large sword with nothing else added. You are better off making two 7* Hyohs than grabbing that one. For future TDW units this will be interesting but for himself there isn't much use for it other than hitting future parameter missions.
    The superior TDH version will come soon with Cloud.


    Conclusion:
    Hyoh
    , as I said earlier, is a monster.
    The powercreep that comes with him compared to our current roster is just outstanding and Hyoh will also last for quite a long time.
    At no point in the fight is he lacking damage. He can deal a lot of consistent damage as well as huge burst damage with his Limit Burst and Triple Cast capabilities. The self 200% ATK buff helps a lot and Hyoh scales insanely well with current and future STMRs to only increase his potential.
    In the future there will be even more units that make Hyoh better. BS Sakura's 7* can imbue him with thunder while being a strong thunder finisher herself and having support capabilities. Emperor Shera can chain with him for the most part while imbueing Hyoh with fire, which is strong for 10 man trials.
    Overall Hyoh is in a similar spot where Orlandeau was upon release: Most people want him, most people hyped him. And there's definitely a reason for that.
    Hyoh's even good as a single 6 star and his additional GL step up features Awakened Rain, who is also one hell of a unit. There's not much reason to not go for him other than you not wanting him or being content with your future 7 stars / not feeling the need of Hyoh.
    Otherwise... No excuses.

    [​IMG]

    Character Design: 7/10
    Sprite: 10/10
    Chainer: 9.5~10/10
    Trust Master Reward: 9.5/10
    STMR: 7/10
    Arena: 9/10
    Limit Burst: 9.5/10
    Future Proof: 8.5/10
    Free 2 Play: 9/10
    Pay 2 Play: 9.5/10
    Personal Rating: 9.5/10
    Optimal Rating: 9.5/10


    [On-Banner Reviews]
    Nah, nah.


    I'll make a small post about Awakend Rain over the next few days.
    I will also pull on the 11k Step Up for Hyoh, but I only really want one of him for his TMR. Nyx awaits.


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    Thanks for the review!
    I hope I can pull him...
     
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    Give him to me! :) So hoping I get a few of him to seven star :)
     
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    Thanks for the review. Waiting for Tidus and ETT atm though lmao
     
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    Going to pull for him, but probably going to get A.Rain instead just because I already have Basch.
     
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    Get ready for all the salty post about blown resources ... don’t chase to hard folks
     
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    @Memel0rd Hey Meme,

    Great review as always, thanks! Do you have a link to a thread discussing Nyx’ ultimate build? I really want Hyoh, but I’m just as likely to not pull him, but I did snag another Nyx from the most recent 10+1. Also, is Nyx any easier to chain than Tidus? The main draw of Hyoh is that DR frames are consistently chainable for IOS users. I now will have the option for 7 star Tidus and 7 star Nyx, but I have the sinking suspicion they will both be pretty unusable for consistent chains on IOS.
     
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    IIrc you have 7 frames for two Nyx to perfectly chain whereas DW Tidus has 1 frame. You still have to be fast, but you don't need spark chains.

    Also I don't have a link for his ultimate build. I have his BiS TMR build in my discussion thread.
     
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    Hyoh helm is a dragon or panther? On the draw look a dragon but his limit burst cg look as a panther... I have to see his limit burst again lol

    Edit: With the delayed batchs... When the Hyoh's Bro, E. Shera will see the daylight?

    Edit2: And great review!!
     
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    Awesome, thanks! At least I don’t need to manage spark chains to utilize him. He’ll defintely be my Hyoh Salt backup plan.
     
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    Should I pull him with my 5* select summon for him even tho I have tidus ready for 7* and I don’t have Basch :((
     
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    His name (ヒョウ) is japanese for leopard. If you look closely upon his sprite, you can see that his helmet also resembles the head of one.
     
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    Great review! I would be happy if I can get 1 so he can chain with my lone 6* oldman in 10 man trials.
     
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    Sup, Meme. Great review as always. I'm gonna try the 11k banner since that's exactly what i have. Wish i had 25k though, i'd be happy with snagging either him or A. Rain in the last step up. Also, even if i don't get him, i have one Tidus... who i may use the UOC tix to get a dupe and awaken to 7*. That or wait for when powercreep demands i use 7* units to clear things. I guess i'll know for sure when the time comes
     
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    Does it make sense to use Dark Sword Arts (DKC STMR) or Subservient (Delita STMR) on Hyou? It seems like with Subservient that would open up a slot for Discernment or a Ribbon if you need ailment protection, or a killer.
     
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    bear with me, cos im tired af

    but am i seeing full smtr build as being weaker?
     
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    And like Old man, 7* Fryevia next month will beat him to the dust.
     
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    It's time! My friend! It's finally time!
     
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    in numbers, yes. But, Nalu's STMR has damage variance, so even with slightly lower ATK, he should hit harder on average compared to the TMR only build
     
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