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News Updates to Select Summon and Rainbow Summon Rates

Discussion in 'News & Events' started by KeybladeMaster97, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Sorwen

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    If you want a first of a unit before the change, be sure to grab one now.

    Edit: Ah no, I read that wrong. Current are still in there.
     
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    I used to know which resources are most valuable to get banner units, but now I don't know how to rank:

    -Tickets
    -Step-up
    -UOC
     
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    If the step up also has increased rate which I think it will, it is more like this.

    1. Step Up
    2. Tickets

    If you got a dupe UoC for prism.
     
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    You can really tell how good this change is because a lot of the crankiest forum people are grudgingly on board, veeeery few people not happy.
     
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    If you flip a coin more times you are going to get what you want more times too... this is like that... 5% rainbow rate is more rainbow... if it is onbanner or troll rainbow (with new rainbows no more delita) And more rainbows means more chances to get an onbanner unit.
     
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  6. Ashlag

    Ashlag Avoid political talk here, it's a landmine Staff Member Moderator VIP Supporter

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    Well 1.5% is more than 1%, obviously.
     
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    not exactly.

    independent RNG is static.

    a coin is always 50-50.
    1 flip or infinite has same chance every time w/o any variation.
     
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    It was metaphorical speaking.. i know a coin is not rainbow rate..
    Well if you are getting 5% rainbows now.. you are able to get more of them... isnt it? If u get more of them sometimes you will get onbanner unit... soo 1 rainbow in a 5% chance that can be your desired unit more times than old 3% rates...
    You first need a rainbow.. and then you "flip a coin" again.. metaphorical speaking.. and can be offbaner/onbanner, but stil u get more chances cause you are playing in a new rate of 5%.
     
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    depends on what u pull for.

    and if u wanted older 7* units that got removed its actually worse.

    but again 3% or 5% means nothing when system decides if ur lucky or not. i mean system says i have a 90% chance with expedition and i fail them left and right.
    RNG is RNG no matter the shown numbers.
     
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    So limited time banner would have their prism available to uoc ?
     
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    While they did not say anything about it, most likely limited time unit prisms will not be added to uoc
     
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    i dont think so (but maybe its possible) as dont think limited units are even able to be gotten with UoC normally. (due to limited being exactly that)
     
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    This is a bandage to a problem that won't stop bleeding until they actually start to fix the core problems of content.

    At the moment the dev team seems to have given up on doing any content of value. They just release units and re-release old trials at a higher level. Story updates have less content than before, story events are basically non-existent (tough there is one coming up) and even special events like Halloween are just farming stages with low-level gear no one will miss.

    They need to get their heads back in the game!
     
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  14. MikePro

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    Overall nice but i wanted a price for unit in uoc (even 20)! Thats simply because:

    Split banners can still screw you.
    Example : im a huge cecil fan and i want CG cecil but look there is hein too in that banner. I have saved up my precious lapis (50k+ lapis) for 2 stepups.

    Now what if i dont get him? Is there any way for me to get him (except buying more lapis?) and pls dont use the excuse “look you can get him later via any banner etc.
    I dont want him later it is too random: you can get him next banner/6 months/never”
    I want to enjoy the unit @release.

    TL DR There is no safety net on double rainbow banners unless they change it.
     
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    What Gumi says and what Gumi actually does are two different animals. They are within their full rights to change their mind and adjust things to their liking "at the last minute" (remember how Esther and Sylvie were originally going to be implemented?).

    Again, I have absolutely zero opinion or hopes until the datamine of actual implemented prices prove otherwise.
     
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    no safety net indeed, but with 1.5% rate, you could try your luck too...
    and also CG Cecil shares banner with Palom&Porom
    I hope I don't get it wrong, but after the banner is gone, they will be added into regular summon pool (ex pool) that means you could try your luck with 10+1 tix or 5+1 or even 5* ex tix for one....
    of course, no guarantee whether or not you're going to get the unit you want
     
  17. Ashlag

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    Those, unlike the UoC cost, weren't part of official video by the producer + part of the official news IG. Those were datamine before the actual activation of the units when those were not released and with no official info out yet, so yes they were perfectly able to change it (dick move or not, that's not the question here). Changing the UoC cost now is a lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot, lot trickier.
     
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    I would bet against it right away, but it may happen much later. kind of like how we got DQ and Nier prisms months later after their colab ended. But then again, who knows lol
     
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    Totally agree as a F2P
     
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    I wouldn't bet it at all. That is what the trust exchange is for and they've barely used that. There is no reason for them to then allow UoC for limited.
     
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