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Vision card ranking

Discussion in 'General' started by daima, Aug 21, 2020.

  1. daima

    daima "Hall of Fame" Member

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    [​IMG]

    Now we got Vision Cards, let's say they are not all equal.

    The basic :
    • You get a random card when pulling for a new NV unit with the orange/red crystal.
    • You get the specific vision card of the unit if you level it to EX+1 and EX+3, only for new NV unit.
    • Only old and new NV units can use vision cards.
    • You can level up to +10 with cactuars card. Main way to get them is playing arena and getting them as reward every week. You can max a vision card by going from NV to EX+3 with a new NV unit. Gl with that last one.
    • New NV units's cards have a passive that activate only for the characters of the same series, it's usually at lvl 10.
    The leveling :
    • You gain 100 exp when using a metal gigantuar card or another card that the one you are leveling ;
    • You gain 500 exp if you use the same card;
    • You need 1 500 exp to level one card from +10.
    • You need 300 exp for reaching the +4 and getting the first effect of the card.
    • You need 800 exp for reaching the +7 (from lvl1) and getting the second effect of the card.
    • You can also fuse your dupes random cards you get when pulling for NV units. In the end you wont lose any exp.
    The best (level those cards and keep the dupes !)
    • [​IMG] Cloud's Mad Dash : the best one for now and future proof for large sword users. +100 flat atk and +100 % atk with large sword and 30% atk for FF7 characters. The +100 flat atk is boosted by the % atk of the units meaning it can go up to 100 + 4 x 100 = 500 more atk ! Consider using equip l sword and fusion sword + this card on Tifa if you can. For large sword users, this VC is still awesome on JP.
    Good (when your good vision cards are already maxed)
    • [​IMG] Rain's In Order to Change the World : Atk +100, hp/def +40% with great sword and hp/def +20% for male units. Gumpi is feminist !! The bulkier version of Cloud VC. It's okay for now but gonna lose some place as we get the equivalent of Cloud's VC for fists, katana and so on.
    • [​IMG] Awakened Dragon Akstar's Guiding the youth : 100atk and up to 120% atk with katana for FFBE units. This card is slightly worse than Mad Dash cause there is less katana users than greatswords users and a lot of katana users can also use greatswords.
    • [​IMG] Aerith's Planet's whisper : 65 flat mag/spr and 50% mag/spr with rod and an additional 20% mag/spr for ff7 units. Sol is coming a bit later with 100 flat mag and 100% mag with rod, that is obviously better for DV or OTK fights. Aerith's one is better for longer fights. Going to ok tier.
    Average (good but niche cards or unit specific cards)
    • [​IMG] Yoshikiri's Virtual Training : 100Spr, 20% spr, ribbon and 25% TDH SPR. Only worth it if you want Yoshikiri to be a damage dealer. Summer fina and daisy comes with a much better one. So wait for it.
    Bad (keep them for now until you can get the hand on better ones, you can also fuse the same cards without losing any exp overall)
    • Knights who soar the skies : atk/def +50, wind resist +30%, atk/def +20%. It gives already +35 atk at lvl 1. Dont level them if you are not drowning in cactuars's card.
    • A vengeful blow : atk+60, dark resist +30% (at lvl 7) and atk +30%. Same as above.
    • 4th anniversary celebration (already at max level) : 40% atk/mag/def/spr and 30% quest xp. Keep it, it's cute. Maybe chow gonna dig something if you watch it enough time.
    • Scorpion Sentinel Battle : It's good enough at lvl 1, dont level it. The main point of this card is the 4k hp barrier you get at lvl 1. Could be good for (arena), some squishy support units or units that to be revived a lot.
    Utter crap (never level it or consider to feed them to the others)
    • The water god and priestess : 40 flat spr, spr +30% and boost parameters by equipping leviathan by 30%. The troll vision card. Thanks gumi.

    I'll update the list with the visuals when it's up on the wiki.
    Gonna take a look at the future one to see what to wait for.

    Cheers. ::blackmage::
     
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  2. daima

    daima "Hall of Fame" Member

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    The future ! (spoiler ofc)

    Physical attackers :
    We got the katana version of Cloud's VC, the bulk one, the fist one and some other versions. Riku's one is really appealing for the LB damage but it only proc for KH characters.
    • Akstar : atk +100, atk +100% with katana, atk +20% (ffbe characters).
    • Firion : atk +90, 80% atk with bow, 40% atk with sword/axe/spear, guts for FFII characters.
    • Edel : atk +100, atk +100% with fists, atk +30% (ffbe characters)
    • Sora : atk+100, atk +60% and for KH characters atkdef/spr/mag +20%, fire, ice, lightning, water, wind, earth and light resistance (10%).
    • Riku : atk+110, atk +80% with sword, for KH characters atk +20% and LB damage +50%.
    • OK : atk +80, atk +30% with sword/katana, 10% fire, water, wind and earth resist and for FFIII characters atk, def, mag, spr +20% and 10% fire, water, wind and earth resist.
    Hybrids :
    • Aerith : mag/spr +65, mag/spr +50% with a rod , mag/spr +20% (FFVII).
    • Syphilis : atk/mag +65, atk/mag +40% with a gun and for FFBE characters atk/mag+30%
    Mages :
    • Sol : mag +100, mag +100% with rod, mag +30% (ffbe characters). The best for mages.
    Tank :
    • Gabranth : hp+800, def+80, def +20% with helm/heavy armor, def +20% (ffxii characters).
    • Summer fina and daisy : hp+800, spr +80, spr +40% with heavy armor, spr +20%.
    Others:
    • Kairi : atk+72,spr+88, atk/spr +40% and for KH characters atk/spr +30%, light resistance +50%.
     
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    Got 2 of this crap. :/
     
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    daima "Hall of Fame" Member

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    That means two cloud and his awesome card !
     
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    Yep. Cannot complain.
    Got him with a tix and a free pull so... 0 lapis spent.
    Sadly he is not the best NV ever but ehy... Better than nothing
     
  6. daima

    daima "Hall of Fame" Member

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    Who is... on a gacha game ? I kinda like he's not locked to any elements like a lot of new ones with his LB.
     
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    True. Nice point of view...
    He can have some usage I would say.
    So his strongest lb is on the standard version. The BS is better as chainer, self capping I suppose.
     
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    You get a card both at EX+1 and EX+3.
     
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    Indeed ! I correct that.
     
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    I got a vengeful blow when I pulled Cloud luckily with a ticket, and then I even upgraded it like an idiot, thinking it was cloud's card. Oh boy.
     
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    And of course, I get the utter crap ::cry::
     
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    @daima there's the 4th anniverssary vision card to put in the rank (even if you don't need to level): 100 HP, 50 MP, 40% Atk/Mag/Def/Spr and 30% XP boost. I think it's a ok vision card for support/tank units.
     
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    Nooooooo mate
     
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    Hell yeah!!!!!!!

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    Added, thanks for pointing it out.
     
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    Is it ok to use your "metal gigantuars here" on his Mad Dash VC or better leave it at lvl1 and save those gigantuars for better VCards?
     
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    Yup it's okay. If you look at my second post, you can see what is coming with other NV. Almost the same cards but for fists or katana for example. If you use fusion sword on tifa (for now), it's pretty good ! And as you are the infamous nommo (::rudecat17::), you can get some every weeks with arena. That should be no trouble for you to be in the top < 3000.
     
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    Updated the main list with Cloud's VC. Good for now with the 100atk. The bulk is not needed though now.
     

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